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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Avenger" data-source="post: 8073904" data-attributes="member: 779"><p>I really don't like the Archdevil backstory, because it's from a time when they really tried to restrict certain things in the story because a lot of things didn't "fit nicely" such as Demons that are more than just rampaging monsters, rather than the emphasis on some "vices" and "sins" over the other vices and sins of Devils. So I'm more for things where there are contradictions or perceived redundancies. So Demons can be manipulative and subtle too just like other Fiends, along with being forces of destruction. What matters is the goal of their approach, and not "well that makes Demons and Devils too alike".</p><p></p><p>That said it could be one story that some believe, but others will point out that there's many holes in it because of this other thing. I get that the idea of the Obyriths ties very much into the Queen of Chaos and the Rod of Seven Parts, which has been contradictory to other things in D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kobold Avenger, post: 8073904, member: 779"] I really don't like the Archdevil backstory, because it's from a time when they really tried to restrict certain things in the story because a lot of things didn't "fit nicely" such as Demons that are more than just rampaging monsters, rather than the emphasis on some "vices" and "sins" over the other vices and sins of Devils. So I'm more for things where there are contradictions or perceived redundancies. So Demons can be manipulative and subtle too just like other Fiends, along with being forces of destruction. What matters is the goal of their approach, and not "well that makes Demons and Devils too alike". That said it could be one story that some believe, but others will point out that there's many holes in it because of this other thing. I get that the idea of the Obyriths ties very much into the Queen of Chaos and the Rod of Seven Parts, which has been contradictory to other things in D&D. [/QUOTE]
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