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<blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 8240778" data-attributes="member: 6775477"><p>Personally, I think that Greyhawk is less magical than 5E typically presents, but it's not "low magic" in the LotR sense. There's plenty of magic in the world, but it's inaccessible to most, leaving information about it rather rare. People fear what they don't understand, giving magic a bad reputation, which many magic-users would gladly take advantage of. The PCs are obviously going to be outliers in any edition, but especially so in a highly magical edition like 5E.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the fact that there's divisions within GH fans doesn't help either. I appreciate the work you've done to carry the banner all these years, but after the "Greyhawk is the default setting" from 3E, I found this isn't a winnable battle. This was by far the worst thing that could happen to GH (including the Greyhawk Wars), since it gave the impression to everyone unfamiliar with the setting that it's just generic. Because of this, no one wants to actually learn anything about it, being instead drawn to other settings.</p><p></p><p>I honestly don't want any more official GH material; I'm just too afraid of what it would look like. If they got you, Luke, or other old school authors to work on it, that'd be amazing, but I find that highly unlikely. Instead I expect they'll make an anniversary book, reprinting previous material without adding anything new. I'd be happy if they'd open the DMGuild for GH, since it would allow a lot of material that each DM can pick and choose from, without any "official" material forced upon them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I do, but GoS isn't as much Greyhawk as I'd have liked to see. Only four of the adventures are actually based in Greyhawk, with the others adapted (somewhat poorly) to the setting. It does a good job with explaining Keoland, but misses the mark on everything else. The Sea Princes are a threat, but it's not mentioned that they're only 30 miles away by sea, while Gradsul (nearest reinforcements for Seaton) is over 120 miles away on the other side of the Dreadwood. It also doesn't mention the politics of the Sea Princes, which could be relevant to Saltmarsh. The goals of the Scarlet Brotherhood isn't mentioned, which should be really important. Finally, the Yeomanry isn't mentioned at all, despite being fairly close by and also having an interest in Saltmarsh (it would give them access to the Azure Sea).</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Sea Prince Politics"]The High Prince wants to abolish slavery, but needs the support of the nobles.</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Scarlet Brotherhood"]They're racists, believing that the Suel humans should rule the world, making non-human agents unlikely.[/SPOILER]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shiroiken, post: 8240778, member: 6775477"] Personally, I think that Greyhawk is less magical than 5E typically presents, but it's not "low magic" in the LotR sense. There's plenty of magic in the world, but it's inaccessible to most, leaving information about it rather rare. People fear what they don't understand, giving magic a bad reputation, which many magic-users would gladly take advantage of. The PCs are obviously going to be outliers in any edition, but especially so in a highly magical edition like 5E. I think the fact that there's divisions within GH fans doesn't help either. I appreciate the work you've done to carry the banner all these years, but after the "Greyhawk is the default setting" from 3E, I found this isn't a winnable battle. This was by far the worst thing that could happen to GH (including the Greyhawk Wars), since it gave the impression to everyone unfamiliar with the setting that it's just generic. Because of this, no one wants to actually learn anything about it, being instead drawn to other settings. I honestly don't want any more official GH material; I'm just too afraid of what it would look like. If they got you, Luke, or other old school authors to work on it, that'd be amazing, but I find that highly unlikely. Instead I expect they'll make an anniversary book, reprinting previous material without adding anything new. I'd be happy if they'd open the DMGuild for GH, since it would allow a lot of material that each DM can pick and choose from, without any "official" material forced upon them. I do, but GoS isn't as much Greyhawk as I'd have liked to see. Only four of the adventures are actually based in Greyhawk, with the others adapted (somewhat poorly) to the setting. It does a good job with explaining Keoland, but misses the mark on everything else. The Sea Princes are a threat, but it's not mentioned that they're only 30 miles away by sea, while Gradsul (nearest reinforcements for Seaton) is over 120 miles away on the other side of the Dreadwood. It also doesn't mention the politics of the Sea Princes, which could be relevant to Saltmarsh. The goals of the Scarlet Brotherhood isn't mentioned, which should be really important. Finally, the Yeomanry isn't mentioned at all, despite being fairly close by and also having an interest in Saltmarsh (it would give them access to the Azure Sea). [SPOILER="Sea Prince Politics"]The High Prince wants to abolish slavery, but needs the support of the nobles. [/SPOILER] [SPOILER="Scarlet Brotherhood"]They're racists, believing that the Suel humans should rule the world, making non-human agents unlikely.[/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]
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