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<blockquote data-quote="Corran21" data-source="post: 6816143" data-attributes="member: 6811814"><p>I was considering a dexadin S&B halfelf for that reason (or human with the magic initiate feat, depending on if you prefer a +2 con and halfelf racial features over an extra cantrip and a 1st level spell that you can cast 1/day plus human variant racial features), and possibly with MAM if I wanted to involve stealth. I can see it working for str builds as well, although I think dex builds are just better (the assumption is that you wont multiclass). It is true though, it wouldnt work with a reach build the way I described it, though I am now thinking that there is a way to use it, and in fact it will be even better, with a PM build. I will analyse that in the end of my post.</p><p>Btw, could you expand more on the synergy of mounted obat and OoA paladins? </p><p> Agreed. BB is there for your OAs.</p><p></p><p> Yeah, thats a good situational benefit of having BB in your build. It could work even better for a mobile paladin, although due to role and the purpose of the build I doubt that mobile fits in well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Yeah, you have a point. I can still rely on casting command with my action for levels before 20, but then I wont be able to use my action to attack and I burn through my spell slots very quickly. Still, a good strategy, but one that really shines at 20 level as you so rightly mentioned. Below I will present you of a way that perhaps makes the best out of n OoA build before 20 level, and still works this magic at 20 level when you get the capstone.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, how about this?</p><p>You start variant human for the extra feat (with which you will grab BB), and you are a str build that will (eventually use a polearm). Feats: Spell sniper (nabs you BB and the ability to cast it at 10 feet with a reach weapon), warcaster (allows you to cast BB as an OA) and polearm master (gives you reach 10 feet).</p><p>At level 20 nothing changes and the combo of elder champion + command + warcaster + BB works its magic exactly as I described. Before level 20, when you wont be able to cast command as a bonus action, you use your action to attack (twice after level 5, with IDS after level 11), your bonus action to attack with the butt end (after you take polearm master, with the benefits of IDS after lvl 11), and you can use your reaction to attack with BB everyine who enters your reach (10 feet) with IDS after lvl 11, allowing for the secondary effect to take place when the enemy moves adjacent to you (obviously you do not want to stop the enemy from moving, thus you wont take sentinel, warcaster takes care of your concentration saves so resilient con loses steam and imo you better avoid it). So at level 8, you have spell sniper, warcaster and polearm master, allowing you to deal some serious pain. You still have plearm master (which admiteddly i maybe the best feat for a paladin, and with warcaster and spell sniper you replicate the effects of sentinel and resilient con in a slightly different way, which in fact will work a lot better for you when you hit lvl 20). What do you think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corran21, post: 6816143, member: 6811814"] I was considering a dexadin S&B halfelf for that reason (or human with the magic initiate feat, depending on if you prefer a +2 con and halfelf racial features over an extra cantrip and a 1st level spell that you can cast 1/day plus human variant racial features), and possibly with MAM if I wanted to involve stealth. I can see it working for str builds as well, although I think dex builds are just better (the assumption is that you wont multiclass). It is true though, it wouldnt work with a reach build the way I described it, though I am now thinking that there is a way to use it, and in fact it will be even better, with a PM build. I will analyse that in the end of my post. Btw, could you expand more on the synergy of mounted obat and OoA paladins? Agreed. BB is there for your OAs. Yeah, thats a good situational benefit of having BB in your build. It could work even better for a mobile paladin, although due to role and the purpose of the build I doubt that mobile fits in well. Yeah, you have a point. I can still rely on casting command with my action for levels before 20, but then I wont be able to use my action to attack and I burn through my spell slots very quickly. Still, a good strategy, but one that really shines at 20 level as you so rightly mentioned. Below I will present you of a way that perhaps makes the best out of n OoA build before 20 level, and still works this magic at 20 level when you get the capstone. So, how about this? You start variant human for the extra feat (with which you will grab BB), and you are a str build that will (eventually use a polearm). Feats: Spell sniper (nabs you BB and the ability to cast it at 10 feet with a reach weapon), warcaster (allows you to cast BB as an OA) and polearm master (gives you reach 10 feet). At level 20 nothing changes and the combo of elder champion + command + warcaster + BB works its magic exactly as I described. Before level 20, when you wont be able to cast command as a bonus action, you use your action to attack (twice after level 5, with IDS after level 11), your bonus action to attack with the butt end (after you take polearm master, with the benefits of IDS after lvl 11), and you can use your reaction to attack with BB everyine who enters your reach (10 feet) with IDS after lvl 11, allowing for the secondary effect to take place when the enemy moves adjacent to you (obviously you do not want to stop the enemy from moving, thus you wont take sentinel, warcaster takes care of your concentration saves so resilient con loses steam and imo you better avoid it). So at level 8, you have spell sniper, warcaster and polearm master, allowing you to deal some serious pain. You still have plearm master (which admiteddly i maybe the best feat for a paladin, and with warcaster and spell sniper you replicate the effects of sentinel and resilient con in a slightly different way, which in fact will work a lot better for you when you hit lvl 20). What do you think? [/QUOTE]
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