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<blockquote data-quote="trowizilla" data-source="post: 1726003" data-attributes="member: 18181"><p>die_kluge, let me respond to your "my daughter prefers girl toys" arguement with this: young children assert their own identity, including gender identity, through toy choices. Here is an anecdote of my own: my very-much younger brother used to play dress-up a lot, and included girl's clothing, pink frilly stuff, and a tiara in his play. He also loved cabbage-patch dolls, etc. However, at about the time he had a definite idea that boys and girls were different, and that he was a boy, he switched to trains, trucks, and giant robots. Just as a toddler who wants to assert his/her "niceness" will go overboard in hugging and kissing, one who wants to make a point of his/her gender will often go to extremes, with pink frills for girls and trucks for boys. They will also reject the symbols of the opposite gender; for example, my brother made up his mind that blue was a "girl color," and refused to wear or own blue things for a few years. While your anecdote suggests that gender differences are innate, mine suggests that children respond to societal imperatives in order to demonstrate their own gender. </p><p>As for your never pushing gender-specific toys on your daughter, I assume she watches television. TV often displays exaggerated stereotypes, especially on children's shows such as Pokemon, Kim Possible, etc. While TV displays a wider range of gender stereotypes now, as opposed to, say, 50 years ago, women are often still shown as "girly girls" who are mainly interested in fashion and frills. </p><p></p><p>As for your wife: I'm definitely female, and I can read a map, give directions, draw a diagram, etc. I also can't multitask very well, and my sense of smell is approximately that of a rock. So your wife is different; I'm glad she has been blessed with her talents, and I'm thankful for my own. However, just because you know people who fit stereotypes doesn't mean that the stereotypes are correct. </p><p></p><p>Just my 2cp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trowizilla, post: 1726003, member: 18181"] die_kluge, let me respond to your "my daughter prefers girl toys" arguement with this: young children assert their own identity, including gender identity, through toy choices. Here is an anecdote of my own: my very-much younger brother used to play dress-up a lot, and included girl's clothing, pink frilly stuff, and a tiara in his play. He also loved cabbage-patch dolls, etc. However, at about the time he had a definite idea that boys and girls were different, and that he was a boy, he switched to trains, trucks, and giant robots. Just as a toddler who wants to assert his/her "niceness" will go overboard in hugging and kissing, one who wants to make a point of his/her gender will often go to extremes, with pink frills for girls and trucks for boys. They will also reject the symbols of the opposite gender; for example, my brother made up his mind that blue was a "girl color," and refused to wear or own blue things for a few years. While your anecdote suggests that gender differences are innate, mine suggests that children respond to societal imperatives in order to demonstrate their own gender. As for your never pushing gender-specific toys on your daughter, I assume she watches television. TV often displays exaggerated stereotypes, especially on children's shows such as Pokemon, Kim Possible, etc. While TV displays a wider range of gender stereotypes now, as opposed to, say, 50 years ago, women are often still shown as "girly girls" who are mainly interested in fashion and frills. As for your wife: I'm definitely female, and I can read a map, give directions, draw a diagram, etc. I also can't multitask very well, and my sense of smell is approximately that of a rock. So your wife is different; I'm glad she has been blessed with her talents, and I'm thankful for my own. However, just because you know people who fit stereotypes doesn't mean that the stereotypes are correct. Just my 2cp. [/QUOTE]
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