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<blockquote data-quote="JohnRTroy" data-source="post: 2435471" data-attributes="member: 2732"><p>Hi guys,</p><p></p><p>To answer Erik Mona's question, the text of the game was written solely by Gary for the Lejendary Adventure game system. Jon solely worked on the initial d20 conversion. My main role was to (a) check the rules for problems and SRD compliance, (b) rename all the "name" spells when they were removed from the SRD and (c) Update for 3.5 compliance when the Trolls decided it had to be a 3.5 release. I think this adventure first was on paper in 2001 or 2002, so it's been a long time coming. I also decided that new monsters, treasures, etc, should be put in appendixes and some LA specific definitions should be defined.</p><p></p><p>When I edited the stat blocks, all I did was check for compliance--making sure Jon didn't reference anything outside what the SRD covered, renaming the overloved Melf's Acid Arrow spell to acid arrow. The 3.5 conversion was a lot tougher--I only completed about 70% of it and let the trolls do the rest. (I emphasize, at least on my part--this was a <strong>volunteer</strong> effort, and I was starting to suffer from health problems at the time). That was a tedious effort, one I would not repeat.</p><p></p><p>For various reasons, Jon wasn't available at the time I was doing the 3.5 conversion. There may have been some weird judgements in monsters, or some accidental power problems with the translations--Jon used demons in the orignal conversion, but the demons seemed to get more powerful with 3.5. </p><p></p><p>Conversions from one game system to another are pretty hit or miss sometimes.</p><p></p><p>I wasn't exactly sure if EL can be used in an SRD only adventure, and some of Gary's scenarios didn't really fit Wizard's way of measuring that. Gary's stuff can be an acquired taste--his scenarios tend towards having the players figure out puzzles. Perhaps it should have been a C&C adventure, but I think this thing took almost 4 years to go from original Gygax manuscript to what you see today.</p><p></p><p>If you're disappointed with this, I think you might instead like Yggsburg. It will be C&C, but unless they change something with the editing, Gary's stats are similar to G1,G2,G3, actually keeping stat blocks out and instead just provding level and hp. It will probably require less work to convert. (But a few things might be--it's old school enough that an old Black Dragon only has about 77 hp! Wow. ;-)) Gary puts as much detail in a small area of land as you'd sometimes get in a campaign boxed set.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnRTroy, post: 2435471, member: 2732"] Hi guys, To answer Erik Mona's question, the text of the game was written solely by Gary for the Lejendary Adventure game system. Jon solely worked on the initial d20 conversion. My main role was to (a) check the rules for problems and SRD compliance, (b) rename all the "name" spells when they were removed from the SRD and (c) Update for 3.5 compliance when the Trolls decided it had to be a 3.5 release. I think this adventure first was on paper in 2001 or 2002, so it's been a long time coming. I also decided that new monsters, treasures, etc, should be put in appendixes and some LA specific definitions should be defined. When I edited the stat blocks, all I did was check for compliance--making sure Jon didn't reference anything outside what the SRD covered, renaming the overloved Melf's Acid Arrow spell to acid arrow. The 3.5 conversion was a lot tougher--I only completed about 70% of it and let the trolls do the rest. (I emphasize, at least on my part--this was a [b]volunteer[/b] effort, and I was starting to suffer from health problems at the time). That was a tedious effort, one I would not repeat. For various reasons, Jon wasn't available at the time I was doing the 3.5 conversion. There may have been some weird judgements in monsters, or some accidental power problems with the translations--Jon used demons in the orignal conversion, but the demons seemed to get more powerful with 3.5. Conversions from one game system to another are pretty hit or miss sometimes. I wasn't exactly sure if EL can be used in an SRD only adventure, and some of Gary's scenarios didn't really fit Wizard's way of measuring that. Gary's stuff can be an acquired taste--his scenarios tend towards having the players figure out puzzles. Perhaps it should have been a C&C adventure, but I think this thing took almost 4 years to go from original Gygax manuscript to what you see today. If you're disappointed with this, I think you might instead like Yggsburg. It will be C&C, but unless they change something with the editing, Gary's stats are similar to G1,G2,G3, actually keeping stat blocks out and instead just provding level and hp. It will probably require less work to convert. (But a few things might be--it's old school enough that an old Black Dragon only has about 77 hp! Wow. ;-)) Gary puts as much detail in a small area of land as you'd sometimes get in a campaign boxed set. [/QUOTE]
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