Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
Archive Forums
Hosted Forums
Personal & Hosted Forums
Hosted Publisher Forums
Eternity Publishing Hosted Forum
Helioedes template
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 5102381" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>The initial idea for the Welkin template was for it to be a sort of coming together of the flesh (mummy) and blood (vampire) chains.</p><p></p><p>So you had</p><p></p><p>Lich < Demilich < Akalich and </p><p></p><p>Death Knight < Draugr < Cimeriel </p><p></p><p>as the two sides (arcane and martial) of the 'bone' aspect of undead.</p><p></p><p>Ghost < Poltergeist < Zeitgeist (or something like that, yes I know what it means) </p><p></p><p>as the 'spirit' aspect of undead.</p><p></p><p>Vampire < Nosferatu < Varcolac </p><p></p><p>for vampires</p><p></p><p>Mummy < Hunefer < Bogeyman</p><p></p><p>for mummies</p><p></p><p>Eventually the spirit & bone would merge into one (can't remember the name of it offhand), as would the flesh and blood (into the Welkin)...then all four would come together as Anti-beings. </p><p></p><p>So the second in the chain would have been about Demigod level power, the third would have been Intermediate God, the fourth an Elder One (the Welkin etc.) with the fifth about First One or better...Anti-beings are above even Entropy. Basically the ECL of the templates was to roughly double each time.</p><p></p><p>The Nosferatu and the Varcolac are in the (4E) Vampire Bestiary, however the Varcolac don't really fit that old criteria, however there are new monsters that do. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Of course, the power bracket has changed and instead of a doubling of Level in 4E (as per 3E) you would just add 10 instead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 5102381, member: 326"] The initial idea for the Welkin template was for it to be a sort of coming together of the flesh (mummy) and blood (vampire) chains. So you had Lich < Demilich < Akalich and Death Knight < Draugr < Cimeriel as the two sides (arcane and martial) of the 'bone' aspect of undead. Ghost < Poltergeist < Zeitgeist (or something like that, yes I know what it means) as the 'spirit' aspect of undead. Vampire < Nosferatu < Varcolac for vampires Mummy < Hunefer < Bogeyman for mummies Eventually the spirit & bone would merge into one (can't remember the name of it offhand), as would the flesh and blood (into the Welkin)...then all four would come together as Anti-beings. So the second in the chain would have been about Demigod level power, the third would have been Intermediate God, the fourth an Elder One (the Welkin etc.) with the fifth about First One or better...Anti-beings are above even Entropy. Basically the ECL of the templates was to roughly double each time. The Nosferatu and the Varcolac are in the (4E) Vampire Bestiary, however the Varcolac don't really fit that old criteria, however there are new monsters that do. ;) Of course, the power bracket has changed and instead of a doubling of Level in 4E (as per 3E) you would just add 10 instead. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
Archive Forums
Hosted Forums
Personal & Hosted Forums
Hosted Publisher Forums
Eternity Publishing Hosted Forum
Helioedes template
Top