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<blockquote data-quote="Ferrix" data-source="post: 1544399" data-attributes="member: 6115"><p>A couple options</p><p></p><p>the troll works well, drop some feats into Roll With It (from savage species, only req is Con 20 and toughness) which gives you DR 2/-, and stacks on itself.</p><p></p><p>A feral dwarf could work well also, Fast Healing 5, natural armor +6, focus on high AC and con increasing items, also the Roll With It feat is good. I made a level 2 feral dwarf fighter with a 32 pnt buy who had DR 4/-, an AC of 27 (half-plate, tower shield, and natural armor), with fast healing 2 and 20 or so hps, took two flaws (shaky and the one that gives a -4 to spot and listen) to get two extra feats which I sunk into Roll With It, and the slow trait (1/2 speed, +1 hp/lvl).</p><p></p><p>You could get a Con of: 18 (starting) + 2 (dwarf) + 2 (feral template) + 5 (leveling increases) + 5 (one of those tomes) + 6 (enhancement) + 2 (3rd level of dwarf paragon) = 40, it can probably get higher. That's +15hp/lvl, so +300hp at level 20, plus an average of 20d10 = 115 or so, totals you out over 400hp. You could get more with some feats.</p><p></p><p>You could get DR 14/-, taking Roll With It 7 times (2 from flaws you picked). That's a chunk off of almost any damage you take. A level 20 rogue's SA bonus damage is on average 35 points, so it'd cut that to a bit over half. You could get higher throwing in some Barbarian levels with the Boar totem (UA) and end up with DR somewhere near the 20's which can't be bypassed by anything except energy damage.</p><p></p><p>You might also want to check out the Survivor PrC from Savage Species, it's all good saves, I think a d12 hd, only 5 levels and by level 5 it gives DR 5/-, crunch that with those 7 Roll With It's, and that's DR 19/-. A basic longsword on a crit wouldn't even have a chance of damaging you.</p><p></p><p>Constitution is very important in most tank builds, cause even when your AC is really high you still take damage at high levels pretty often. You also want good saves and some sort of elemental resistances. Items could be cloaks of resistance, types of armor with elemental resistance (or a ring of universal elemental resistance, it's in one of the books), AC boosting items, Con boosting items.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ferrix, post: 1544399, member: 6115"] A couple options the troll works well, drop some feats into Roll With It (from savage species, only req is Con 20 and toughness) which gives you DR 2/-, and stacks on itself. A feral dwarf could work well also, Fast Healing 5, natural armor +6, focus on high AC and con increasing items, also the Roll With It feat is good. I made a level 2 feral dwarf fighter with a 32 pnt buy who had DR 4/-, an AC of 27 (half-plate, tower shield, and natural armor), with fast healing 2 and 20 or so hps, took two flaws (shaky and the one that gives a -4 to spot and listen) to get two extra feats which I sunk into Roll With It, and the slow trait (1/2 speed, +1 hp/lvl). You could get a Con of: 18 (starting) + 2 (dwarf) + 2 (feral template) + 5 (leveling increases) + 5 (one of those tomes) + 6 (enhancement) + 2 (3rd level of dwarf paragon) = 40, it can probably get higher. That's +15hp/lvl, so +300hp at level 20, plus an average of 20d10 = 115 or so, totals you out over 400hp. You could get more with some feats. You could get DR 14/-, taking Roll With It 7 times (2 from flaws you picked). That's a chunk off of almost any damage you take. A level 20 rogue's SA bonus damage is on average 35 points, so it'd cut that to a bit over half. You could get higher throwing in some Barbarian levels with the Boar totem (UA) and end up with DR somewhere near the 20's which can't be bypassed by anything except energy damage. You might also want to check out the Survivor PrC from Savage Species, it's all good saves, I think a d12 hd, only 5 levels and by level 5 it gives DR 5/-, crunch that with those 7 Roll With It's, and that's DR 19/-. A basic longsword on a crit wouldn't even have a chance of damaging you. Constitution is very important in most tank builds, cause even when your AC is really high you still take damage at high levels pretty often. You also want good saves and some sort of elemental resistances. Items could be cloaks of resistance, types of armor with elemental resistance (or a ring of universal elemental resistance, it's in one of the books), AC boosting items, Con boosting items. [/QUOTE]
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