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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Vangarel" data-source="post: 296057" data-attributes="member: 223"><p>My players often joke that I never let them get to high levels and looking back most campaigns have ended somewhere between 10th and 15th level. I think one reason for this was that in previous editions high level opponents wern't as readily available as in 3E.</p><p></p><p>The current campaign is approaching 8th level and the players have started to make jokes about when the new campaign will start but I'd really like to get to high levels. The last campaign ran for 15 months and reached level 14 which was probably the highest I've ever DM'd.</p><p></p><p>I think part of the problem is fear of these higher levels. Also as characters reach these 'epic' levels I've seen people comment that the bonuses become more important than the actual d20 roll. Am I worrying about nothing? The epic level handbook acknowledges some problems with just progressing characters because it changes the rules to accommodate higher levels with attacks and saves. I couldn't imagine getting higher than mid 20's or early 30's but will the current rules accommodate this?</p><p></p><p>So my questions are:</p><p></p><p>- Advice on higher level play, how to keep it interesting. </p><p>- Do I need the epic level handbook or could we just progress the characters up a bit beyond 20th level? </p><p>- For those that have or are playing higher levels do the bonuses outway the d20 roll i.e. does the system reach a point where having to roll a d20 seems meaningless as it would appear from Deities and Demigods?</p><p></p><p>Thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Vangarel, post: 296057, member: 223"] My players often joke that I never let them get to high levels and looking back most campaigns have ended somewhere between 10th and 15th level. I think one reason for this was that in previous editions high level opponents wern't as readily available as in 3E. The current campaign is approaching 8th level and the players have started to make jokes about when the new campaign will start but I'd really like to get to high levels. The last campaign ran for 15 months and reached level 14 which was probably the highest I've ever DM'd. I think part of the problem is fear of these higher levels. Also as characters reach these 'epic' levels I've seen people comment that the bonuses become more important than the actual d20 roll. Am I worrying about nothing? The epic level handbook acknowledges some problems with just progressing characters because it changes the rules to accommodate higher levels with attacks and saves. I couldn't imagine getting higher than mid 20's or early 30's but will the current rules accommodate this? So my questions are: - Advice on higher level play, how to keep it interesting. - Do I need the epic level handbook or could we just progress the characters up a bit beyond 20th level? - For those that have or are playing higher levels do the bonuses outway the d20 roll i.e. does the system reach a point where having to roll a d20 seems meaningless as it would appear from Deities and Demigods? Thanks. [/QUOTE]
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