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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4370033" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>No, because there's a key element that's being missed.</p><p></p><p>Assuming for a moment Twin Strike works, despite the off-hand restriction:</p><p></p><p>When you make the OA with your off-hand, you get two attacks, one from your primary weapon and a second from your off-hand weapon. But these two attacks are not two OAs; rather, they are both part of the Twin Strike power, which is the attack granted by Two-Weapon Flurry - that is, an OA with your off-hand weapon.</p><p></p><p>So if your primary weapon hits, you satisfy two conditions:</p><p>1. You hit with an attack with your primary weapon.</p><p>2. You hit with an opportunity attack (Twin Strike) with your off-hand weapon.</p><p></p><p>What you have not done is hit with an opportunity attack with your primary weapon. Twin Strike is an OA, and it grants an attack with your primary weapon, but that attack is not itself an OA; rather, it is part of the power which, due to Heavy Blade Opportunist, <em>is</em> the OA. Any hit you achieve with the power you use (from HBO) is a hit with an opportunity attack with your off-hand weapon (from TWFl)... even if it's delivered with your primary weapon.</p><p></p><p>It can't be a hit with an opportunity attack with your primary weapon, because TWFl doesn't grant an opportunity attack with your primary weapon, it grants an opportunity attack with your off-hand weapon.</p><p></p><p>And since TWFl only triggers from a hit with an opportunity attack with your primary weapon, the TWFl/HBO-granted Twin Strike can't trigger TWFl a second time.</p><p></p><p>Key point: The OA is Twin Strike. The individual attacks are part of the OA, not OAs themselves. Either (or both) attack can result in "a hit with an OA", but the OA that is hitting is Twin Strike, which is an OA with your off-hand weapon.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4370033, member: 1656"] No, because there's a key element that's being missed. Assuming for a moment Twin Strike works, despite the off-hand restriction: When you make the OA with your off-hand, you get two attacks, one from your primary weapon and a second from your off-hand weapon. But these two attacks are not two OAs; rather, they are both part of the Twin Strike power, which is the attack granted by Two-Weapon Flurry - that is, an OA with your off-hand weapon. So if your primary weapon hits, you satisfy two conditions: 1. You hit with an attack with your primary weapon. 2. You hit with an opportunity attack (Twin Strike) with your off-hand weapon. What you have not done is hit with an opportunity attack with your primary weapon. Twin Strike is an OA, and it grants an attack with your primary weapon, but that attack is not itself an OA; rather, it is part of the power which, due to Heavy Blade Opportunist, [i]is[/i] the OA. Any hit you achieve with the power you use (from HBO) is a hit with an opportunity attack with your off-hand weapon (from TWFl)... even if it's delivered with your primary weapon. It can't be a hit with an opportunity attack with your primary weapon, because TWFl doesn't grant an opportunity attack with your primary weapon, it grants an opportunity attack with your off-hand weapon. And since TWFl only triggers from a hit with an opportunity attack with your primary weapon, the TWFl/HBO-granted Twin Strike can't trigger TWFl a second time. Key point: The OA is Twin Strike. The individual attacks are part of the OA, not OAs themselves. Either (or both) attack can result in "a hit with an OA", but the OA that is hitting is Twin Strike, which is an OA with your off-hand weapon. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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