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<blockquote data-quote="Jhaelen" data-source="post: 5638160" data-attributes="member: 46713"><p>Well, option one is that the setting dictates which faction is correct:</p><p>In Eberron your fantasy version of the pope would be right and the heretics would be wrong.</p><p>In Greyhawk it would probably be the other way around.</p><p></p><p>In general, though, there's no reason why either faction has to be wrong:</p><p>If the followers of your fantasy pope want to believe that divine power is irrevocable, why should the deity choose to prove them wrong by taking away the granted power?</p><p></p><p>Being a deity there are other ways to stop a misguided pope. Actually, perhaps the followers of the Heresy of St. Ilia are the tool used by the deity to get rid of the pope!</p><p></p><p>In a setting with more active deities, there's always the fist from the heavens approach (which doesn't have to literally manifest in that way).</p><p></p><p>Conflicting dogmas are irrelevant to a deity, unless they interfere with a deity's goals or endanger their existence (and even that might not be sufficient to get a deity to act, depending on the setting). </p><p></p><p>Resolving the contradiction isn't necessary, unless it's the most convenient way to deal with the situation for the deity (e.g. if your pope faction and the heretics were equally strong and thus threatened to eliminate each other, leaving the deity without worshippers).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jhaelen, post: 5638160, member: 46713"] Well, option one is that the setting dictates which faction is correct: In Eberron your fantasy version of the pope would be right and the heretics would be wrong. In Greyhawk it would probably be the other way around. In general, though, there's no reason why either faction has to be wrong: If the followers of your fantasy pope want to believe that divine power is irrevocable, why should the deity choose to prove them wrong by taking away the granted power? Being a deity there are other ways to stop a misguided pope. Actually, perhaps the followers of the Heresy of St. Ilia are the tool used by the deity to get rid of the pope! In a setting with more active deities, there's always the fist from the heavens approach (which doesn't have to literally manifest in that way). Conflicting dogmas are irrelevant to a deity, unless they interfere with a deity's goals or endanger their existence (and even that might not be sufficient to get a deity to act, depending on the setting). Resolving the contradiction isn't necessary, unless it's the most convenient way to deal with the situation for the deity (e.g. if your pope faction and the heretics were equally strong and thus threatened to eliminate each other, leaving the deity without worshippers). [/QUOTE]
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