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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 805378" data-attributes="member: 94"><p>Gotcha... I had character level in mind rather than class level-- thinking Feats at the time. I warned ya I was math challenged yesterday.</p><p></p><p>At least now we're both on the same page regarding your concerns with Skill Focus.</p><p></p><p>I am ready at this point to concede that, yes, a prestige class that has a single "IT" skill requirement, used simply as an artificial level requirement, with no other balanced skill, feat, or BAB requirements, can be broken by Skill Focus. </p><p></p><p>But I still maintain that's a problem with the design and balance of the PrC, not Skill Focus. I'd like to see you come around to an agreement on that point.</p><p></p><p>I strongly dispute that the piece you pulled from the DMG (as if I wasn't aware of it...) is evidence in support of such a narrowly defined prestige class. If you're going to use a single skill as the determining factor, skip the B.S. and just list a level requirement instead (though the DMG is clearly against the use of class or level as a requirement...)</p><p></p><p>I think in terms of my design philosophy with regard to PrCs, I am closer in spirit and intent to the <em>other</em> guidelines in the DMG-- not simply in entry requirements, but in the design of class abilities and the balance of the class as a whole.</p><p></p><p>Mother's eyes... touche. Perhaps... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Wulf</p><p></p><p><em>-- Without question, the HOHF series is a different beast, since I'm as often as not doing my best to simply design a multiclass hybrid. But, trust that in this discussion, I'm talking to the larger issue of PrC's in general. </em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 805378, member: 94"] Gotcha... I had character level in mind rather than class level-- thinking Feats at the time. I warned ya I was math challenged yesterday. At least now we're both on the same page regarding your concerns with Skill Focus. I am ready at this point to concede that, yes, a prestige class that has a single "IT" skill requirement, used simply as an artificial level requirement, with no other balanced skill, feat, or BAB requirements, can be broken by Skill Focus. But I still maintain that's a problem with the design and balance of the PrC, not Skill Focus. I'd like to see you come around to an agreement on that point. I strongly dispute that the piece you pulled from the DMG (as if I wasn't aware of it...) is evidence in support of such a narrowly defined prestige class. If you're going to use a single skill as the determining factor, skip the B.S. and just list a level requirement instead (though the DMG is clearly against the use of class or level as a requirement...) I think in terms of my design philosophy with regard to PrCs, I am closer in spirit and intent to the [i]other[/i] guidelines in the DMG-- not simply in entry requirements, but in the design of class abilities and the balance of the class as a whole. Mother's eyes... touche. Perhaps... ;) Wulf [i]-- Without question, the HOHF series is a different beast, since I'm as often as not doing my best to simply design a multiclass hybrid. But, trust that in this discussion, I'm talking to the larger issue of PrC's in general. [/i] [/QUOTE]
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