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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 808335" data-attributes="member: 94"><p>Except that, according to the DMG, it is also a tenet of PrC design not to design exclusively for class. But we're on the same page here, really; I also think it's neat to design with an eye to exclusive skills and such. </p><p></p><p>I just don't agree that you can design your prestige class, apply a list of mediocre entry requirements, then go back at the last minute, stick in a single skill requirement to put the throttle on character level entry, and call that "game balance."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Skill Focus (+2) is a poorly written feat. That some PrC designers choose to use it as a "penalty feat" is not high praise.</p><p></p><p>I suppose I'd have to say that my reading of the DMG section goes the opposite of the way you guys are interpreting it. I don't see it as justifying "balance" by requiring certain skill ranks; rather, I interpret it to mean that IF the skill requirements are high, THEN the abilities can be better.</p><p></p><p>That just doesn't change my focus of using the skill (and other) requirements as a way to FLAVOR the class, rather than simply as the primary mechanism to balance it-- and especially not if you are simply using a <strong>single skill</strong> as a shorthand version of saying, "You must be character level X to take this class..." (also verboten).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wulf</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 808335, member: 94"] Except that, according to the DMG, it is also a tenet of PrC design not to design exclusively for class. But we're on the same page here, really; I also think it's neat to design with an eye to exclusive skills and such. I just don't agree that you can design your prestige class, apply a list of mediocre entry requirements, then go back at the last minute, stick in a single skill requirement to put the throttle on character level entry, and call that "game balance." Skill Focus (+2) is a poorly written feat. That some PrC designers choose to use it as a "penalty feat" is not high praise. I suppose I'd have to say that my reading of the DMG section goes the opposite of the way you guys are interpreting it. I don't see it as justifying "balance" by requiring certain skill ranks; rather, I interpret it to mean that IF the skill requirements are high, THEN the abilities can be better. That just doesn't change my focus of using the skill (and other) requirements as a way to FLAVOR the class, rather than simply as the primary mechanism to balance it-- and especially not if you are simply using a [b]single skill[/b] as a shorthand version of saying, "You must be character level X to take this class..." (also verboten). Wulf [/QUOTE]
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