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<blockquote data-quote="Zathris" data-source="post: 6754136" data-attributes="member: 6687148"><p>Aside from not picking the bad ones (Shade, Vryloka...) race actually doesn't matter too much in mid-late Heroic games. It can snag you a proficiency+damage feat, or if you're Cha it's pretty relevant (Tiefling or Dragonborn are just so much better), but otherwise you can pretty safely go 17/15/... or just throw that 18 in Str with a race only boosting Str if it's a good race.</p><p></p><p>I think my choices would be as follows:</p><p>Human: Heroic Only an Extra Feat is just great and Heroic Effort makes the loss 2nd stat basically irrelevant even if you were to pick up a Wis based attack. Oh, and bonus skill and defenses.</p><p></p><p>Mul: Since your U2 gives you a non-standard action 2nd Wind, there's little reason for Dwarf.</p><p></p><p>Dragonborn: The new Drakonian Kapak variant (Dragon 421) gives you a Minor Action Encounter Attack that unlike Dragonbreath gets you full damage bonuses. Oh, and Flight.</p><p></p><p>Genasi is the Archetypal race for Ranger|Cleric because of their Paragon/Epic absurdity but the Racial for Storm adds yet another Minor Action for more damage.</p><p></p><p>Beyond that I'd say they're all pretty equal, +Wis really isn't that necessary beyond +1 Will, so the difference between Goliath/Minotaur/Shifter and any other +Str race is limited.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zathris, post: 6754136, member: 6687148"] Aside from not picking the bad ones (Shade, Vryloka...) race actually doesn't matter too much in mid-late Heroic games. It can snag you a proficiency+damage feat, or if you're Cha it's pretty relevant (Tiefling or Dragonborn are just so much better), but otherwise you can pretty safely go 17/15/... or just throw that 18 in Str with a race only boosting Str if it's a good race. I think my choices would be as follows: Human: Heroic Only an Extra Feat is just great and Heroic Effort makes the loss 2nd stat basically irrelevant even if you were to pick up a Wis based attack. Oh, and bonus skill and defenses. Mul: Since your U2 gives you a non-standard action 2nd Wind, there's little reason for Dwarf. Dragonborn: The new Drakonian Kapak variant (Dragon 421) gives you a Minor Action Encounter Attack that unlike Dragonbreath gets you full damage bonuses. Oh, and Flight. Genasi is the Archetypal race for Ranger|Cleric because of their Paragon/Epic absurdity but the Racial for Storm adds yet another Minor Action for more damage. Beyond that I'd say they're all pretty equal, +Wis really isn't that necessary beyond +1 Will, so the difference between Goliath/Minotaur/Shifter and any other +Str race is limited. [/QUOTE]
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