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High DPR Paladin-Rogue-Bard Will it work?
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<blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 9252478" data-attributes="member: 9254"><p>Do you mean three weapon attacks or 3 eldritch bolts? Because cantrips, like EB, scale with character level. Take magic Initiate at 19 and the cantrips do 4 dice of damage.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't do the Warlock smite Invocation, I'd go for Maddening Curse. You will be using Hex as a damage boost anyway and it does (Cha) psychic damage to foes within 5ft of the cursee as a bonus action. That should get you 6+ extra damage most rounds (2+ targets), which is essentially 2d6 sneak attack. Hb-curse includes a damage boost of (Prof Bonus) so min +2, which is most of a sneak attack die. </p><p></p><p>It also means you do damage even if you miss your attacks and those times you fight a mob will average out against solo monsters</p><p></p><p>I'd get to 2 attacks as quickly as possible (pal5 or warlock5) as single-hit builds can be nerfed by simple things like mirror images, blur, invis, or just smoke. </p><p></p><p>At warlock5 you would be doing 2 attacks (thirsting blade) which each get +d6 necro hex damage, plus a bonus action of +Cha to hexed & adjacent foes (maddening hex). When you add HBCurse you would add another +3 damage to each attack and get crits on 19s and get 5+Cha hp of healing when the accursed dies. I'm guessing the 3rd invocation would be Improved Pact Blade, for a +1 attack/damage.</p><p></p><p>At range you'd have 2 EBs, which get the +d6 hex & benefits from HB curse. </p><p></p><p>You only have 2x Pact slots vs 3 AT spells but the pact are 2nd level a d refresh on short rest so it should be a net win. Plus much less MAD as melee & range is Cha based. Hex will stack with Pal smites and HBCurse ups chance of crits for smite-novas.</p><p></p><p>The Warlock loses you 1 AT caster level equivalent for combined caster level, but the 2x 2nd level Pact slots (& hb curse) are in addition to the Pal/Bard slots so its easy to have hex damage going all the time.</p><p></p><p>If you ever take Pal5,Warlock6, you could swap out Thirsting Blade for a different invocation. Plus you would get the Spectre power. Which, if nothing else, gives you a flanker and causes an enemy to waste 22hp of damage on it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kigmatzomat, post: 9252478, member: 9254"] Do you mean three weapon attacks or 3 eldritch bolts? Because cantrips, like EB, scale with character level. Take magic Initiate at 19 and the cantrips do 4 dice of damage. I wouldn't do the Warlock smite Invocation, I'd go for Maddening Curse. You will be using Hex as a damage boost anyway and it does (Cha) psychic damage to foes within 5ft of the cursee as a bonus action. That should get you 6+ extra damage most rounds (2+ targets), which is essentially 2d6 sneak attack. Hb-curse includes a damage boost of (Prof Bonus) so min +2, which is most of a sneak attack die. It also means you do damage even if you miss your attacks and those times you fight a mob will average out against solo monsters I'd get to 2 attacks as quickly as possible (pal5 or warlock5) as single-hit builds can be nerfed by simple things like mirror images, blur, invis, or just smoke. At warlock5 you would be doing 2 attacks (thirsting blade) which each get +d6 necro hex damage, plus a bonus action of +Cha to hexed & adjacent foes (maddening hex). When you add HBCurse you would add another +3 damage to each attack and get crits on 19s and get 5+Cha hp of healing when the accursed dies. I'm guessing the 3rd invocation would be Improved Pact Blade, for a +1 attack/damage. At range you'd have 2 EBs, which get the +d6 hex & benefits from HB curse. You only have 2x Pact slots vs 3 AT spells but the pact are 2nd level a d refresh on short rest so it should be a net win. Plus much less MAD as melee & range is Cha based. Hex will stack with Pal smites and HBCurse ups chance of crits for smite-novas. The Warlock loses you 1 AT caster level equivalent for combined caster level, but the 2x 2nd level Pact slots (& hb curse) are in addition to the Pal/Bard slots so its easy to have hex damage going all the time. If you ever take Pal5,Warlock6, you could swap out Thirsting Blade for a different invocation. Plus you would get the Spectre power. Which, if nothing else, gives you a flanker and causes an enemy to waste 22hp of damage on it. [/QUOTE]
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