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<blockquote data-quote="rushlight" data-source="post: 1684644" data-attributes="member: 3801"><p>I don't find <em>gate</em> that bad. I assume it's the "creature calling" part that you object to. First it has a 1000 XP cost. Second, you are somewhat limited (to 2x caster level) in the HD of the creature if you intend to use it to fight. Sure you can get more, but a DM would be an idiot if he just let you call 90 HD creatures without some sort of payback. Those sorts of creatures wouldn't take kindly to being bandied about by tactless wizards. </p><p></p><p>And honestly, when you keep the HD limit enforced, basically what you've got is a bigger, badder <em>Summon Monster</em>. As a DM, if your player tends to use this spell often, you can compensate by adding additional bigger, meaner monsters for the called creature to fight. Or have the BBEG cast gate himself and summon a balor to deal with that solar. Whatever, it's not that big of a deal.</p><p></p><p>And also don't forget - <em>gate</em> actually <strong>physically brings the creature to the matieral plane</strong>. If it dies, it's DEAD. If the mage kills off too many extraplanar creatures, you can be sure that others will come looking for the reason...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rushlight, post: 1684644, member: 3801"] I don't find [i]gate[/i] that bad. I assume it's the "creature calling" part that you object to. First it has a 1000 XP cost. Second, you are somewhat limited (to 2x caster level) in the HD of the creature if you intend to use it to fight. Sure you can get more, but a DM would be an idiot if he just let you call 90 HD creatures without some sort of payback. Those sorts of creatures wouldn't take kindly to being bandied about by tactless wizards. And honestly, when you keep the HD limit enforced, basically what you've got is a bigger, badder [I]Summon Monster[/I]. As a DM, if your player tends to use this spell often, you can compensate by adding additional bigger, meaner monsters for the called creature to fight. Or have the BBEG cast gate himself and summon a balor to deal with that solar. Whatever, it's not that big of a deal. And also don't forget - [i]gate[/i] actually [B]physically brings the creature to the matieral plane[/B]. If it dies, it's DEAD. If the mage kills off too many extraplanar creatures, you can be sure that others will come looking for the reason... [/QUOTE]
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