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<blockquote data-quote="Hillsy7" data-source="post: 7249868" data-attributes="member: 6689191"><p>See above about AC and damage and whatnot - I don't disagree that it's not 'Optimal', and that you would need a decent grasp of the rules and 5e tactics to completely paper over the fact you're stuck at AC 16 (20 WIS, 12 DEX), but I'm saying the AC rules are pushing Monks towards DEX, not anything to do with the Monk Class (By comparison, Barbarians specify rage damage requires a STR attack).</p><p></p><p>So here's my problem with the subclass idea - if a Monk player chooses to have identical STR and DEX, none of the current rules or abilities make one or the other "better". What I've seen proposed around STR monks either a) burn one of the "Way" perks to swap in STR to AC, making it a worse choice than DEX options, or b) adds STR to AC for free and then adds Abilities that make STR "Better", at which point you have a DEX monk, that gets no benefit to abilities for High DEX, compared to a STR monk which does. And so the balance goes off whack again.</p><p></p><p>And finally, if you just make a subclass that Swaps in STR to AC, but provides no other perks for having high STR, why as a player are you so invested in a STR based Monk? And that, fundamentally, poses a significantly deeper question about possible solutions (Bareknuckle fighter or barbarian, refluffing Stats, etc) that simply swapping STR for DEX.......</p><p></p><p>Of course I'm largely viewing this from a limited perspective (mine) and the fact I'd accept that building a STR monk would mean I'd be taking an AC hit because of my stubborn character concept.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hillsy7, post: 7249868, member: 6689191"] See above about AC and damage and whatnot - I don't disagree that it's not 'Optimal', and that you would need a decent grasp of the rules and 5e tactics to completely paper over the fact you're stuck at AC 16 (20 WIS, 12 DEX), but I'm saying the AC rules are pushing Monks towards DEX, not anything to do with the Monk Class (By comparison, Barbarians specify rage damage requires a STR attack). So here's my problem with the subclass idea - if a Monk player chooses to have identical STR and DEX, none of the current rules or abilities make one or the other "better". What I've seen proposed around STR monks either a) burn one of the "Way" perks to swap in STR to AC, making it a worse choice than DEX options, or b) adds STR to AC for free and then adds Abilities that make STR "Better", at which point you have a DEX monk, that gets no benefit to abilities for High DEX, compared to a STR monk which does. And so the balance goes off whack again. And finally, if you just make a subclass that Swaps in STR to AC, but provides no other perks for having high STR, why as a player are you so invested in a STR based Monk? And that, fundamentally, poses a significantly deeper question about possible solutions (Bareknuckle fighter or barbarian, refluffing Stats, etc) that simply swapping STR for DEX....... Of course I'm largely viewing this from a limited perspective (mine) and the fact I'd accept that building a STR monk would mean I'd be taking an AC hit because of my stubborn character concept. [/QUOTE]
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