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<blockquote data-quote="Emberashh" data-source="post: 9064438" data-attributes="member: 7040941"><p>Mythic fantasy is literally a different genre altogether, and having to qualify if something still counts as "mundane" by affixing tags to it is not a hallmark of Appendix N fiction. </p><p></p><p>Just as much as theres hard and soft magic, theres also soft and hard mundaneity; you don't have to qualify a character being more capable than real humans, at all, even if they're depicted in the literal real world. The classic action hero is the epitome of that, who at most is only qualified by something that already exists thats used as shorthand to explain why they can be badass, like being Special Forces or a Super Spy or whatever; they don't need some otherworldly, nonexistent thing to be what the fiction says they are.</p><p></p><p>If we're adding such things, then we are violating the genre of the action movie and crossing into one or more of superheroes, scifi, horror, fantasy, etc. </p><p></p><p>The same is true of DND and Appendix N fiction. This perpetual debate is only as prevalent as it is because we keep trying to negotiate a way around doing what the game actually needs. </p><p></p><p>Having to qualify a better designed martial with tags like "mythical" just to satisfy the whims of an unseen and unspeaking phantasm thats <em>totally</em> going to freak out if you make martials better or fix casters is just, a waste of time and energy, and a lost cause at that as the consequences of taking that route will affect the game in ways people are way too flippant about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Emberashh, post: 9064438, member: 7040941"] Mythic fantasy is literally a different genre altogether, and having to qualify if something still counts as "mundane" by affixing tags to it is not a hallmark of Appendix N fiction. Just as much as theres hard and soft magic, theres also soft and hard mundaneity; you don't have to qualify a character being more capable than real humans, at all, even if they're depicted in the literal real world. The classic action hero is the epitome of that, who at most is only qualified by something that already exists thats used as shorthand to explain why they can be badass, like being Special Forces or a Super Spy or whatever; they don't need some otherworldly, nonexistent thing to be what the fiction says they are. If we're adding such things, then we are violating the genre of the action movie and crossing into one or more of superheroes, scifi, horror, fantasy, etc. The same is true of DND and Appendix N fiction. This perpetual debate is only as prevalent as it is because we keep trying to negotiate a way around doing what the game actually needs. Having to qualify a better designed martial with tags like "mythical" just to satisfy the whims of an unseen and unspeaking phantasm thats [I]totally[/I] going to freak out if you make martials better or fix casters is just, a waste of time and energy, and a lost cause at that as the consequences of taking that route will affect the game in ways people are way too flippant about. [/QUOTE]
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