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<blockquote data-quote="Galloglaich" data-source="post: 5923582" data-attributes="member: 77019"><p>Agreed, hence the title of this thread. My only caveat is that historical facts are often far more fascinating and fun than people realize, which is part of what I was trying to demonstrate with this thread. The overlap between all the really neat (and scary, and fascinating, and enthralling) things that define say, late Medieval history with what people think it was all about is really very very small. </p><p> </p><p>The same can be said for mythology of course as well. </p><p> </p><p>But sometimes peoples resistance to the historical can be itself rather irrational. For example, a few years ago Jake Norwood, creator of Riddle of Steel and also an historical fencer, was visiting us here, and decided to run a game set in 17th Century Poland based on the "With Fire and Sword" novels. Some of the guys who were going to play were rather typical gamers and initially balked at the idea of an historical setting, "all these names are too weird" and so on. We suggested that they think of it as just another wierd arbitrary fantasy setting: you can substitute Gandalf for John Casimir, or Drzzzt for Ivan Bohun; Arenal for Prussia or Gondor for Poland; Dithracki for Mongols and Qarth for Constantinople. All the names are equally weird. They reluctantly tried it and.... it was a blast! everyone agreeed, one of the best game sessions we ever had. </p><p> </p><p>So personally I don't really care if it's a pure fantasy setting or historical, but I like a feeling of immersion, and for that, I want some kind of verisimilitude. I can get immersed in a Buggs Bunny cartoon, (or say, a Paranoia game) because it's consistant with it's own internal logic; I can get immersed in a good horror movie (or a Call of Cthulhu game) for the same reasons. But when it comes to fantasy settings, I find I am often disappointed, not because it's a fantasy setting, but because it's just too juvenile or sophomoric and I really just can't buy-into it no matter how hard I try. Like one of those really bad Sci Fi channel movies they used to have a few years ago, Mansquito or Megashark or whatever. That is how most Fantasy RPG settings strike me.</p><p> </p><p>G</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Galloglaich, post: 5923582, member: 77019"] Agreed, hence the title of this thread. My only caveat is that historical facts are often far more fascinating and fun than people realize, which is part of what I was trying to demonstrate with this thread. The overlap between all the really neat (and scary, and fascinating, and enthralling) things that define say, late Medieval history with what people think it was all about is really very very small. The same can be said for mythology of course as well. But sometimes peoples resistance to the historical can be itself rather irrational. For example, a few years ago Jake Norwood, creator of Riddle of Steel and also an historical fencer, was visiting us here, and decided to run a game set in 17th Century Poland based on the "With Fire and Sword" novels. Some of the guys who were going to play were rather typical gamers and initially balked at the idea of an historical setting, "all these names are too weird" and so on. We suggested that they think of it as just another wierd arbitrary fantasy setting: you can substitute Gandalf for John Casimir, or Drzzzt for Ivan Bohun; Arenal for Prussia or Gondor for Poland; Dithracki for Mongols and Qarth for Constantinople. All the names are equally weird. They reluctantly tried it and.... it was a blast! everyone agreeed, one of the best game sessions we ever had. So personally I don't really care if it's a pure fantasy setting or historical, but I like a feeling of immersion, and for that, I want some kind of verisimilitude. I can get immersed in a Buggs Bunny cartoon, (or say, a Paranoia game) because it's consistant with it's own internal logic; I can get immersed in a good horror movie (or a Call of Cthulhu game) for the same reasons. But when it comes to fantasy settings, I find I am often disappointed, not because it's a fantasy setting, but because it's just too juvenile or sophomoric and I really just can't buy-into it no matter how hard I try. Like one of those really bad Sci Fi channel movies they used to have a few years ago, Mansquito or Megashark or whatever. That is how most Fantasy RPG settings strike me. G [/QUOTE]
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