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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 471708" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>Yes, although the alliance between Stalin and Hitler was bound to fall apart, I think, even without the launch of Operation Barbarossa. It's not hard to either postulate that Barbarossa was launched right before Hitler's death and rather quickly recalled, or that some other diplomatic <em>faux pax</em> subsequently split the alliance. Still, the idea of a big and very powerful German Empire with fascist policies (although not as extreme as Nazism turned out to be without Hitler's presence for the last several years of the war) is a key feature of the setting.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, that occured to me too. I need to come up with some alternative way to get the US out of it's turtle shell and into the world theater in a big way without actually involving them in a hot war. Or perhaps involving them in another hot war, perhaps in the Middle East, which draws them out, and provides the gestalt to launch the pan-Arab "empire" as well? I'm sure there's other ideas.</p><p></p><p>True, the Nazis were probably there first. Unless, of course, the scientists that did actually defect do so in this scenario too. I really would like all four superpowers to be atomic, but how they get there and in what order, and what goes on in the meantime is a big open question.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, I need to come up with another compelling reason to draw the US into "superpowerhood" but I haven't yet worked out the details of what that would be exactly. Perhaps they finally came to Britains rescue when the Nazis withdrew their attention from the Soviets?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 471708, member: 2205"] Yes, although the alliance between Stalin and Hitler was bound to fall apart, I think, even without the launch of Operation Barbarossa. It's not hard to either postulate that Barbarossa was launched right before Hitler's death and rather quickly recalled, or that some other diplomatic [i]faux pax[/i] subsequently split the alliance. Still, the idea of a big and very powerful German Empire with fascist policies (although not as extreme as Nazism turned out to be without Hitler's presence for the last several years of the war) is a key feature of the setting. [b][/b] Yeah, that occured to me too. I need to come up with some alternative way to get the US out of it's turtle shell and into the world theater in a big way without actually involving them in a hot war. Or perhaps involving them in another hot war, perhaps in the Middle East, which draws them out, and provides the gestalt to launch the pan-Arab "empire" as well? I'm sure there's other ideas. [b][/b] True, the Nazis were probably there first. Unless, of course, the scientists that did actually defect do so in this scenario too. I really would like all four superpowers to be atomic, but how they get there and in what order, and what goes on in the meantime is a big open question. [b][/b] Yeah, I need to come up with another compelling reason to draw the US into "superpowerhood" but I haven't yet worked out the details of what that would be exactly. Perhaps they finally came to Britains rescue when the Nazis withdrew their attention from the Soviets? [b][/B] [/QUOTE]
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