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<blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 6110193" data-attributes="member: 85158"><p>No.</p><p></p><p>First, you must admit that Contingent Spells are magical items This is explicitly stated in the rules I showed you just now. </p><p></p><p>So tell me, how does a warlock create <em>anything </em>under your interpretation? If a Warlock cannot craft a Contingent Spell because he does not know magic spells, he also cannot scribe scrolls, craft wands, or many any other magical item... which defeats the entire point of the ability, which is for the warlock to be able to "use his supernatural power to create magic items, <u>even if he does not know the spells required to make an item</u> (although <u>he must know the appropriate item creation feat</u>)."</p><p></p><p>And warlocks do not magically know every spell in my interpretation. Please avoid using straw men in your argument. The Warlock must "<u>substitute a Use Magic Device check</u> (DC 15 + spell level for arcane spells or 25 + spell level for divine spells) <u>in place of a required spell he doesn’t know or can’t cast</u>." As you can see, it is all contingent on their Use Magic Device check.</p><p></p><p>Craft Contingent Spell works on warlocks, and warlocks can craft magic items.<span style="color: #00ff00"> If you disagree, then would you kindly tell me what happens when a warlock takes Scribe Scroll and tries to scribe a scroll?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ff00"></span></p><p></p><p>Warlocks get Knowledge Arcana, Knowledge Religion, and Spellcraft. My glaivelock has 12 ranks in both knowledges, and 10 ranks in Spellcraft. Do you consider this sufficient to know about the first and second level arcane spells that he made using Craft Contingent Spell?</p><p></p><p>If not, what skills do you think are appropriate, and how many ranks in them would a character need to identify <em>basic magical spells</em>?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dandu, post: 6110193, member: 85158"] No. First, you must admit that Contingent Spells are magical items This is explicitly stated in the rules I showed you just now. So tell me, how does a warlock create [I]anything [/I]under your interpretation? If a Warlock cannot craft a Contingent Spell because he does not know magic spells, he also cannot scribe scrolls, craft wands, or many any other magical item... which defeats the entire point of the ability, which is for the warlock to be able to "use his supernatural power to create magic items, [U]even if he does not know the spells required to make an item[/U] (although [U]he must know the appropriate item creation feat[/U])." And warlocks do not magically know every spell in my interpretation. Please avoid using straw men in your argument. The Warlock must "[U]substitute a Use Magic Device check[/U] (DC 15 + spell level for arcane spells or 25 + spell level for divine spells) [U]in place of a required spell he doesn’t know or can’t cast[/U]." As you can see, it is all contingent on their Use Magic Device check. Craft Contingent Spell works on warlocks, and warlocks can craft magic items.[COLOR=#00ff00] If you disagree, then would you kindly tell me what happens when a warlock takes Scribe Scroll and tries to scribe a scroll? [/COLOR] Warlocks get Knowledge Arcana, Knowledge Religion, and Spellcraft. My glaivelock has 12 ranks in both knowledges, and 10 ranks in Spellcraft. Do you consider this sufficient to know about the first and second level arcane spells that he made using Craft Contingent Spell? If not, what skills do you think are appropriate, and how many ranks in them would a character need to identify [I]basic magical spells[/I]? [/QUOTE]
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