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How a ****ing cantrip exterminates an entire school of magic. NO MORE OF THAT!
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<blockquote data-quote="Jimlock" data-source="post: 5713111" data-attributes="member: 6674931"><p>busted <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> You are correct sir.</p><p>I'll edit that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep, but being (probably) a caster he can end this with numerous spells + he can shout directions, Like "Corgan! the one on your left!" or "The middle one!" or "The next to the door!"... players playing before the enemy will get it right easily.</p><p></p><p>another example?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh.. come on... once you know it's an illusion, its game over. It's automatic success. Every time this has happened in my games the illusion was worthless afterwards.</p><p></p><p>as for disbelief:</p><p><span style="color: Olive">Saving Throws and Illusions (Disbelief)</span></p><p><span style="color: Olive">Creatures encountering an illusion usually do not receive saving throws to recognize it as illusory until they study it carefully or interact with it <span style="color: Lime">in some fashion.</span></span></p><p></p><p>If a DM says that identifying something as an Illusion does not count as interacting with this something <span style="color: Lime">in some fashion</span>, is CLEARLY houseruling.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps you can provide an example encounter that counters this somehow?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As you said it: "of items". Very restricted as most of illusions are not applied on items.</p><p>Plus, do you know how many such spells you need to cast on an average PC so that he registers no auras at all?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>again, it only applies to person or item. Majority of Illusions can't benefit from this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>again, it only applies to person or item.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah... like every body uses the shadow weave... something reserved almost exclusively for Sharans.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jimlock, post: 5713111, member: 6674931"] busted :D You are correct sir. I'll edit that. Yep, but being (probably) a caster he can end this with numerous spells + he can shout directions, Like "Corgan! the one on your left!" or "The middle one!" or "The next to the door!"... players playing before the enemy will get it right easily. another example? Oh.. come on... once you know it's an illusion, its game over. It's automatic success. Every time this has happened in my games the illusion was worthless afterwards. as for disbelief: [COLOR="Olive"]Saving Throws and Illusions (Disbelief) Creatures encountering an illusion usually do not receive saving throws to recognize it as illusory until they study it carefully or interact with it [COLOR="Lime"]in some fashion.[/COLOR][/COLOR] If a DM says that identifying something as an Illusion does not count as interacting with this something [COLOR="Lime"]in some fashion[/COLOR], is CLEARLY houseruling. Perhaps you can provide an example encounter that counters this somehow? As you said it: "of items". Very restricted as most of illusions are not applied on items. Plus, do you know how many such spells you need to cast on an average PC so that he registers no auras at all? again, it only applies to person or item. Majority of Illusions can't benefit from this. again, it only applies to person or item. Yeah... like every body uses the shadow weave... something reserved almost exclusively for Sharans. [/QUOTE]
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