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How a ****ing cantrip exterminates an entire school of magic. NO MORE OF THAT!
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<blockquote data-quote="cjosephs1s" data-source="post: 5713812" data-attributes="member: 6683450"><p>Ahhh..Seems an Illusion has been performed right infront on our eyes and Greenfield is both the caster and the one being fooled. He sees what he wants. </p><p> </p><p>I cast Trueseeing on you so you may see the truth of my words! </p><p> </p><p>Apperently you missed the part where I said to ignore SRD and use the PHB. Read the section on Illusion spells on pg 158 in the PHB 3.0. Or if you're a 3.5 person its on pg 173 in the PHB. </p><p> </p><p>Several of them are direct mind affecting spells. Phantasmal killer is one. </p><p> </p><p>Ok so if illusions aren't tricks of the mind then how do they work? They aren't really there. Are they <em>conjurations</em> of images? If so then they should be in the conjuration school of magic. They are all lies and how do you believe a lie? with your mind. This magic affects your sense, hence it affects your mind (you can't see without your brain recieving electrical impulses) </p><p> </p><p>So if Illusions aren't tricks of the mind then we stop looking at them do we cease to believe what we just saw? No we still believe it because it is a magic of the mind. How can it produce heat if no heat exists? The magic fools our mind to make it think it is warmer than it really is. This is why illusions are considered mind affecting spells. Because without the mind it will do nothing to you. Think of a dead body. Will an illusion warm the dead body? no, Will it harm a dead body, no. Will it do anything to a dead body? no. And we can see the effects of it doing nothing on the dead body. This is why illusions are mind affecting. Dead bodies have no working minds. The living mind makes the illusion real. </p><p> </p><p>Think of the Matrix. "Your mind makes it real" "It's a system of control"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cjosephs1s, post: 5713812, member: 6683450"] Ahhh..Seems an Illusion has been performed right infront on our eyes and Greenfield is both the caster and the one being fooled. He sees what he wants. I cast Trueseeing on you so you may see the truth of my words! Apperently you missed the part where I said to ignore SRD and use the PHB. Read the section on Illusion spells on pg 158 in the PHB 3.0. Or if you're a 3.5 person its on pg 173 in the PHB. Several of them are direct mind affecting spells. Phantasmal killer is one. Ok so if illusions aren't tricks of the mind then how do they work? They aren't really there. Are they [I]conjurations[/I] of images? If so then they should be in the conjuration school of magic. They are all lies and how do you believe a lie? with your mind. This magic affects your sense, hence it affects your mind (you can't see without your brain recieving electrical impulses) So if Illusions aren't tricks of the mind then we stop looking at them do we cease to believe what we just saw? No we still believe it because it is a magic of the mind. How can it produce heat if no heat exists? The magic fools our mind to make it think it is warmer than it really is. This is why illusions are considered mind affecting spells. Because without the mind it will do nothing to you. Think of a dead body. Will an illusion warm the dead body? no, Will it harm a dead body, no. Will it do anything to a dead body? no. And we can see the effects of it doing nothing on the dead body. This is why illusions are mind affecting. Dead bodies have no working minds. The living mind makes the illusion real. Think of the Matrix. "Your mind makes it real" "It's a system of control" [/QUOTE]
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