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<blockquote data-quote="Apok" data-source="post: 104200" data-attributes="member: 1969"><p>Oh, I agree completely that the Bard's versatility is a really neat idea. However, not everybody is going to want to play the Bard as such a character. I'm not saying that the bard <em> must </em> be nailed down into an specific arechtype, only that the option should be there for those who want it. True, you could roleplay a Bard as being any one of these archetypes, but anyone can roleplay any class as anything (well, just about). My concern is the "crunchy bits," if you will. What differentiates a Skald type Bard from a Riddlemaster? Sure, your skill and spell selections might be a bit different and they would be rp'd differently, but you'd still be fairly similiar mechanics-wise. </p><p></p><p>The great thing about Fighters is that their large number of feats gives them a great deal of customizability. A Bard's abilities are more static; This is what you get, Period. They don't get very many feats to work with and there are few really good feats that help to focus a Bard's talents. Spell selection helps diversify Bards somewhat, but their spell selection is rather limited in it's scope. This is why I am a major advocate for Bard PrC's. If a player wants to play the standard Jack Bard, wonderfull. However, I am in favor of giving people more leeway in customizing thier Bards AND giving them tangible mechanical benefits to represent their chosen focus, at the cost of other abilities. Sounds just like a PrC, doesn't it?</p><p></p><p>But that's just my opinion; I could be wrong. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Apok, post: 104200, member: 1969"] Oh, I agree completely that the Bard's versatility is a really neat idea. However, not everybody is going to want to play the Bard as such a character. I'm not saying that the bard [i] must [/i] be nailed down into an specific arechtype, only that the option should be there for those who want it. True, you could roleplay a Bard as being any one of these archetypes, but anyone can roleplay any class as anything (well, just about). My concern is the "crunchy bits," if you will. What differentiates a Skald type Bard from a Riddlemaster? Sure, your skill and spell selections might be a bit different and they would be rp'd differently, but you'd still be fairly similiar mechanics-wise. The great thing about Fighters is that their large number of feats gives them a great deal of customizability. A Bard's abilities are more static; This is what you get, Period. They don't get very many feats to work with and there are few really good feats that help to focus a Bard's talents. Spell selection helps diversify Bards somewhat, but their spell selection is rather limited in it's scope. This is why I am a major advocate for Bard PrC's. If a player wants to play the standard Jack Bard, wonderfull. However, I am in favor of giving people more leeway in customizing thier Bards AND giving them tangible mechanical benefits to represent their chosen focus, at the cost of other abilities. Sounds just like a PrC, doesn't it? But that's just my opinion; I could be wrong. ;) [/QUOTE]
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