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How Hard Core is "Hard Core"? Searching for Meaning in Demographics
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<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 5374898" data-attributes="member: 51930"><p>Good questions.</p><p> </p><p>I don't know. I'd say I'm not a typical gamer myself, and don't seem to fit into the "standard" hardcore package myself. I've been around for several editions of D&D, however, and pecked at other systems.</p><p> </p><p>I also have a massive bookshelf filled with game tomes, and am on this site or others running PBP games all the time. This is more regular than my RL game, in fact, which I tend to run. I write my own stuff.</p><p> </p><p>I love the concepts of power-gaming, but enjoy the game in general across the board even without it. It's just plain fun.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>1. Not. You are not casual either. I think we can say you're an enthusiast without being a fanatic. </p><p></p><p>2. There are loads of people like yourself. </p><p> </p><p>3. No. You only buy once a quarter, while others buy frequently. However, you're a gamer so maybe they'll make something you want. If you want to be more their demographic, then start GMing. We're the ones who buy all the books.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>4. Dunno. Go to a Convention and ask them.</p><p></p><p>5. Do what other people who can't stand spending time at FLGS's (like me) do: meet friends, introduce them to the game, and run it. If they're having fun, they'll buy the basic Core books of whatever system they like. Or join a meetup group that meets up and go to their group meetings.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>6. I don't get that. The challenge is that kids today think MMORPGs are the same thing. They're not curious or inspired enough. You need to inspire whoever you're with. I was inspired by my first GM, and have tried to at least inspire others to give the game a shot.</p><p> Give a boardgame night a shot. If, after that, you can get a group of people together who are willing to give it a try, do so. Make sure they're people who will get along and have fun.</p><p> </p><p>The biggest turnoff to RPGs is the gross people who play them. It's a social game, among other things. If you think the crowd that likes this stuff is gross, obnoxious, and detrimental to your growth as a human being, find another group or lower your standards. That is, if you care enough about the game to not ditch it completely.</p><p> </p><p>The challenge, then, is to make a game appeal to non-gross people. That's why I tend to target my 20-something successful friends, many of whom are lovely and talented, and can't meet interesting real people outside of work. I have (on several occassions) dropped players who refuse to care for their hygiene: stinky feet, or that fecal-matter smell, bam, gone. One guy tried tickling a female player who was not interested, and bam: gone. </p><p> </p><p>Instead of junk food, we serve vegetables at the table. There is beer, but I'd like there to be club soda and juices, and other healthy lifestyle alternative foods. </p><p> </p><p>I'd like to make the area the game is set in nice, cozy, comfortable, and the sort of place you'd feel proud to spend 4-8 hours playing pretend in.</p><p> </p><p>If you can do that: you'll save RPGs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 5374898, member: 51930"] Good questions. I don't know. I'd say I'm not a typical gamer myself, and don't seem to fit into the "standard" hardcore package myself. I've been around for several editions of D&D, however, and pecked at other systems. I also have a massive bookshelf filled with game tomes, and am on this site or others running PBP games all the time. This is more regular than my RL game, in fact, which I tend to run. I write my own stuff. I love the concepts of power-gaming, but enjoy the game in general across the board even without it. It's just plain fun. 1. Not. You are not casual either. I think we can say you're an enthusiast without being a fanatic. 2. There are loads of people like yourself. 3. No. You only buy once a quarter, while others buy frequently. However, you're a gamer so maybe they'll make something you want. If you want to be more their demographic, then start GMing. We're the ones who buy all the books. 4. Dunno. Go to a Convention and ask them. 5. Do what other people who can't stand spending time at FLGS's (like me) do: meet friends, introduce them to the game, and run it. If they're having fun, they'll buy the basic Core books of whatever system they like. Or join a meetup group that meets up and go to their group meetings. 6. I don't get that. The challenge is that kids today think MMORPGs are the same thing. They're not curious or inspired enough. You need to inspire whoever you're with. I was inspired by my first GM, and have tried to at least inspire others to give the game a shot. Give a boardgame night a shot. If, after that, you can get a group of people together who are willing to give it a try, do so. Make sure they're people who will get along and have fun. The biggest turnoff to RPGs is the gross people who play them. It's a social game, among other things. If you think the crowd that likes this stuff is gross, obnoxious, and detrimental to your growth as a human being, find another group or lower your standards. That is, if you care enough about the game to not ditch it completely. The challenge, then, is to make a game appeal to non-gross people. That's why I tend to target my 20-something successful friends, many of whom are lovely and talented, and can't meet interesting real people outside of work. I have (on several occassions) dropped players who refuse to care for their hygiene: stinky feet, or that fecal-matter smell, bam, gone. One guy tried tickling a female player who was not interested, and bam: gone. Instead of junk food, we serve vegetables at the table. There is beer, but I'd like there to be club soda and juices, and other healthy lifestyle alternative foods. I'd like to make the area the game is set in nice, cozy, comfortable, and the sort of place you'd feel proud to spend 4-8 hours playing pretend in. If you can do that: you'll save RPGs. [/QUOTE]
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