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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7103433" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Well, I think it's different because dragons are such iconic creatures, and like giants, they come into our imagination is so many different sizes and have been presented in so many different ways.</p><p></p><p>I don't think it's unreasonable that we be given a wide range of stat blocks for dragons, especially in a game named Dungeons and Dragons. An on a smaller scale, the whole notion of monsters coming in ranges of danger, was not unique to dragons in the 1e presentation. Many monsters had their HD given as a range, with smaller, average, and larger sizes of the same monster. </p><p></p><p>As for your comparison with the orc, I think that's very instructive. For orcs, if we want to express an orc that is tougher than normal, we could so that by giving the orc class levels. Now the orc is a 10th level fighter, or a 7th level witch-doctor, or whatever. But the same technique doesn't feel like it works for dragons, and in any event, is probably even more complex than age categories.</p><p></p><p>What I will agree with though, is despite some legitimately interesting aspects of the classic age category presentation, it has always been more trouble than it is genius. Despite being such an iconic monster, every edition has had problems with the presentation of dragons in one fashion or another. What I am gratified to see so far though, is it doesn't look like there is necessarily going to be strong demand for MORE age categories, and that I can probably back down from the 12 categories that we've seen in recent editions without a lot of outcry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7103433, member: 4937"] Well, I think it's different because dragons are such iconic creatures, and like giants, they come into our imagination is so many different sizes and have been presented in so many different ways. I don't think it's unreasonable that we be given a wide range of stat blocks for dragons, especially in a game named Dungeons and Dragons. An on a smaller scale, the whole notion of monsters coming in ranges of danger, was not unique to dragons in the 1e presentation. Many monsters had their HD given as a range, with smaller, average, and larger sizes of the same monster. As for your comparison with the orc, I think that's very instructive. For orcs, if we want to express an orc that is tougher than normal, we could so that by giving the orc class levels. Now the orc is a 10th level fighter, or a 7th level witch-doctor, or whatever. But the same technique doesn't feel like it works for dragons, and in any event, is probably even more complex than age categories. What I will agree with though, is despite some legitimately interesting aspects of the classic age category presentation, it has always been more trouble than it is genius. Despite being such an iconic monster, every edition has had problems with the presentation of dragons in one fashion or another. What I am gratified to see so far though, is it doesn't look like there is necessarily going to be strong demand for MORE age categories, and that I can probably back down from the 12 categories that we've seen in recent editions without a lot of outcry. [/QUOTE]
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