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How many air-blown waterskins are needed, if wearing metal armors, to prevent sinking in water?
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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 9027840" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>The issue with plate armor is not so much the weight, it's also the lack of mobility. The articulation isnt really designed for any swimming strokes other than breath stroke.</p><p></p><p>For weight alone, it's long been established that you actually need to strap on around 10 percent of your bodyweight - give or take for fat/muscle composition - in lead weights (divers use dive belts for this purpose) just to sink to the bottom and counter act your own bodies boyancy:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://diveandmore.com/how-much-weight/#:~:text=Take%2010%25%20of%20your%20body%20weight%20in%20lead&text=For%20example%2C%20muscles%20sink%20and,actually%20need%20more%20than%2018lbs." target="_blank">https://diveandmore.com/how-much-weight/#:~:text=Take 10% of your body weight in lead&text=For example, muscles sink and,actually need more than 18lbs.</a></p><p></p><p>So your average 85 kilo man requires around 8.5 kilos of lead weights just to counter his own flotation, and even then he can pretty easily tread water to counteract that weight strapped to him.</p><p></p><p>Like, anyone can test this out.</p><p></p><p>1) Strap on a dive belt with lead weights.</p><p>2) Jump in the pool and tread water (starting in the shallow end and supervised by friends of course).</p><p></p><p>I'm ex-military myself and in good shape, and I can tread water and swim with a 10-kilo (25lb or so) dive belt attached (but you have to work at it, and it tires you out much faster than it does without).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly. I'm not a levelled PC capable of falling from the Empire State building and walking away or taking down 3 Brown bears at the same time bare handed or smacking the Balrog of Moria to death with a hammer.</p><p></p><p>This thread is a textbook example of the guy in the gym fallacy. The 'guy in the gym' is an unlevelled Commoner with 5 hit points and a Strength score of 10.</p><p></p><p>He's not an 11th level Fighter capable of doing a superhero landing from a 100' fall and walking away, or killing a T-Rex with a pocket knife.</p><p></p><p>Those guys can swim in Plate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 9027840, member: 6788736"] The issue with plate armor is not so much the weight, it's also the lack of mobility. The articulation isnt really designed for any swimming strokes other than breath stroke. For weight alone, it's long been established that you actually need to strap on around 10 percent of your bodyweight - give or take for fat/muscle composition - in lead weights (divers use dive belts for this purpose) just to sink to the bottom and counter act your own bodies boyancy: [URL='https://diveandmore.com/how-much-weight/#:~:text=Take%2010%25%20of%20your%20body%20weight%20in%20lead&text=For%20example%2C%20muscles%20sink%20and,actually%20need%20more%20than%2018lbs.']https://diveandmore.com/how-much-weight/#:~:text=Take 10% of your body weight in lead&text=For example, muscles sink and,actually need more than 18lbs.[/URL] So your average 85 kilo man requires around 8.5 kilos of lead weights just to counter his own flotation, and even then he can pretty easily tread water to counteract that weight strapped to him. Like, anyone can test this out. 1) Strap on a dive belt with lead weights. 2) Jump in the pool and tread water (starting in the shallow end and supervised by friends of course). I'm ex-military myself and in good shape, and I can tread water and swim with a 10-kilo (25lb or so) dive belt attached (but you have to work at it, and it tires you out much faster than it does without). Exactly. I'm not a levelled PC capable of falling from the Empire State building and walking away or taking down 3 Brown bears at the same time bare handed or smacking the Balrog of Moria to death with a hammer. This thread is a textbook example of the guy in the gym fallacy. The 'guy in the gym' is an unlevelled Commoner with 5 hit points and a Strength score of 10. He's not an 11th level Fighter capable of doing a superhero landing from a 100' fall and walking away, or killing a T-Rex with a pocket knife. Those guys can swim in Plate. [/QUOTE]
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