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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5988883" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>I would not be shocked to hear that on-line.</p><p></p><p>Heh. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Well, I didn't say 'class,' just 'caster' there are a /lot/ of 3.x casters.</p><p></p><p>Here's a well-known example: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/story-hour/226482-sagiros-story-hour-further-adventures-abernathys-company-updated-7-15-12-a.html" target="_blank">Sagiro's Story-Hour</a>The PCs are two clerics, a cleric with a rogue level or two, two wizards, and a wizard with a fighter level or two (maybe, it's unclear). NPCs include an orc fighter and halfling rogue.</p><p></p><p>Feel free to go through the Story Hour looking for a party of all non-casting PCs.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure it's coming (inevitable, really, unless 5e slays Pathfinder the way Pathfinder helped kill 4e), and he'd be a prime candidate.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I prefer an edition with a long run, and a quantum leap forward in the next ed. It's more time exploring the full potential of the game - RPGs have a /lot/ of potential depth - I've rarely found myself picking up a new ed without regretting characters or campaigns I never got to try under the old one (picking up 3.0 being an exception that leaps to mind). And, it's more reason to move on and adopt the new instead of sticking with the old. </p><p></p><p>I don't believe it is. Though 'a matter of taste,' may seem 'arbitrary,' it's really more <em>personal</em> for instance. My hackles just go up when a stated rationale includes some invalid or factually questionable elements. I think most of us go through life without really /examining/ our likes and dislikes, so even when we try to explain them, we end up rationalizing rather than elucidating. That's one thing about discussions like this: they can be used to refine arguments for or against something, or to better understand how you came to be on the side you're arguing for, and thus whether you really want to stay there.</p><p></p><p><em>(Man, I'm getting overly philosophical, here.)</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5988883, member: 996"] I would not be shocked to hear that on-line. Heh. ;) Well, I didn't say 'class,' just 'caster' there are a /lot/ of 3.x casters. Here's a well-known example: [url="http://www.enworld.org/forum/story-hour/226482-sagiros-story-hour-further-adventures-abernathys-company-updated-7-15-12-a.html"]Sagiro's Story-Hour[/url]The PCs are two clerics, a cleric with a rogue level or two, two wizards, and a wizard with a fighter level or two (maybe, it's unclear). NPCs include an orc fighter and halfling rogue. Feel free to go through the Story Hour looking for a party of all non-casting PCs. I'm sure it's coming (inevitable, really, unless 5e slays Pathfinder the way Pathfinder helped kill 4e), and he'd be a prime candidate. Personally, I prefer an edition with a long run, and a quantum leap forward in the next ed. It's more time exploring the full potential of the game - RPGs have a /lot/ of potential depth - I've rarely found myself picking up a new ed without regretting characters or campaigns I never got to try under the old one (picking up 3.0 being an exception that leaps to mind). And, it's more reason to move on and adopt the new instead of sticking with the old. I don't believe it is. Though 'a matter of taste,' may seem 'arbitrary,' it's really more [i]personal[/i] for instance. My hackles just go up when a stated rationale includes some invalid or factually questionable elements. I think most of us go through life without really /examining/ our likes and dislikes, so even when we try to explain them, we end up rationalizing rather than elucidating. That's one thing about discussions like this: they can be used to refine arguments for or against something, or to better understand how you came to be on the side you're arguing for, and thus whether you really want to stay there. [i](Man, I'm getting overly philosophical, here.)[/i] [/QUOTE]
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