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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 9030089" data-attributes="member: 6901101"><p>That end part does seem to be the case. But unfortunately, we have no proof that this is how people play. I feel like most people follow story, and story is varied amounts of combat in a day. </p><p></p><p>If we go by the data, less than 20% of the players multi-class. The people that combo what you suggest is a fraction of that. So because it doesn't work for these two combos, you want to remove (make less powerful) an useful wizard spell. It makes no sense to me. I have given examples where it is not overpowered by any means, especially for a wizard. </p><p></p><p>I feel like this is one of those perceived notions rather than actual gameplay experiences. </p><p></p><p>I'm not missing it at all. But remember, what you are suggesting is changing a <em>wizard spell</em>. And you want it changed, based on your arguments, for non-wizard reasons. Please think about the logic here: I keep pointing to the wizard, because it is the wizard that you are hamstringing. </p><p></p><p>There are dozens of problematic combos inside multiclassing. If it skews the balance of power too much for your table, then don't allow multiclassing. But to hamstring the wizard and take away one of their few defensive spells all because some hypothetical multiclass combination may happen seems absurd.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 9030089, member: 6901101"] That end part does seem to be the case. But unfortunately, we have no proof that this is how people play. I feel like most people follow story, and story is varied amounts of combat in a day. If we go by the data, less than 20% of the players multi-class. The people that combo what you suggest is a fraction of that. So because it doesn't work for these two combos, you want to remove (make less powerful) an useful wizard spell. It makes no sense to me. I have given examples where it is not overpowered by any means, especially for a wizard. I feel like this is one of those perceived notions rather than actual gameplay experiences. I'm not missing it at all. But remember, what you are suggesting is changing a [I]wizard spell[/I]. And you want it changed, based on your arguments, for non-wizard reasons. Please think about the logic here: I keep pointing to the wizard, because it is the wizard that you are hamstringing. There are dozens of problematic combos inside multiclassing. If it skews the balance of power too much for your table, then don't allow multiclassing. But to hamstring the wizard and take away one of their few defensive spells all because some hypothetical multiclass combination may happen seems absurd. [/QUOTE]
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