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<blockquote data-quote="Ajar" data-source="post: 5945753" data-attributes="member: 85901"><p>I'm only speaking for the 4E versions, here. I've run 1.5 WotBS adventures and 1.9 Zeitgeist adventures, and have read or skimmed the rest of what's available for both. </p><p></p><p>To me, reading through the adventures, there was clear development from WotBS to Zeitgeist (and within WotBS, for that matter). WotBS had a great story and underlying concepts, but the execution was a bit uneven. I've made substantial structural modifications to the adventures I've run so far (as well as mechanical modifications, but that's due to the monster math changing after publication, so not the writers' fault). I'd still put it comfortably in the upper tier of published adventures/campaigns I've read, but not in the top 10. </p><p></p><p>Zeitgeist has a story that's at least as good as WotBS -- better, IMO, but different people like different styles -- and the execution is top-notch as well. Hooks abound for everyone, and the backdrop is very amenable to worthwhile player-generated hooks without major modifications to the overall story. </p><p></p><p>I would put <em>The Dying Skyseer</em> on easily par with <em>House of Strahd</em> (the 2E update of <em>I6: Ravenloft</em>) -- although I may be looking back on that with rose-coloured glasses, I haven't read it since I ran it -- and the Zeitgeist AP as a whole so far is the best published adventure/campaign I've encountered, period. </p><p></p><p>What would I change? I sometimes find the layout a little confusing -- little details aren't always where I expect them to be, sometimes buried in a paragraph on a different page in a different section than the one where the PCs are interacting with whatever it is I want to find out about. <em>The Dying Skyseer</em> is sufficiently nonlinear that it's hard to say where information should actually be, though, and I haven't blatantly contradicted myself yet. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>To sum up: WotBS good, Zeitgeist great.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ajar, post: 5945753, member: 85901"] I'm only speaking for the 4E versions, here. I've run 1.5 WotBS adventures and 1.9 Zeitgeist adventures, and have read or skimmed the rest of what's available for both. To me, reading through the adventures, there was clear development from WotBS to Zeitgeist (and within WotBS, for that matter). WotBS had a great story and underlying concepts, but the execution was a bit uneven. I've made substantial structural modifications to the adventures I've run so far (as well as mechanical modifications, but that's due to the monster math changing after publication, so not the writers' fault). I'd still put it comfortably in the upper tier of published adventures/campaigns I've read, but not in the top 10. Zeitgeist has a story that's at least as good as WotBS -- better, IMO, but different people like different styles -- and the execution is top-notch as well. Hooks abound for everyone, and the backdrop is very amenable to worthwhile player-generated hooks without major modifications to the overall story. I would put [i]The Dying Skyseer[/i] on easily par with [i]House of Strahd[/i] (the 2E update of [i]I6: Ravenloft[/i]) -- although I may be looking back on that with rose-coloured glasses, I haven't read it since I ran it -- and the Zeitgeist AP as a whole so far is the best published adventure/campaign I've encountered, period. What would I change? I sometimes find the layout a little confusing -- little details aren't always where I expect them to be, sometimes buried in a paragraph on a different page in a different section than the one where the PCs are interacting with whatever it is I want to find out about. [i]The Dying Skyseer[/i] is sufficiently nonlinear that it's hard to say where information should actually be, though, and I haven't blatantly contradicted myself yet. :) To sum up: WotBS good, Zeitgeist great. [/QUOTE]
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