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<blockquote data-quote="Silverblade The Ench" data-source="post: 4200614" data-attributes="member: 19083"><p>Defiling isn't a, hm, "natural progression", it's something specifically nasty, and screwy to Athas.</p><p></p><p>Defilers are not sorcerors, nope, not ever, specifically stated they are wizards, they have to learn spells etc (in the 1st boxed setit states they "gain spells faster", where as sorcerors gain spells slower than wizards!).</p><p></p><p>Another possibility is just giving defilers extra matamagic feats., But I think the flavour is much better served by defilers automatically getting metamagic feat-effects on any spell cast...but require life energy to do so. </p><p>No life, no spells, and the life drain kills life, including people (depending on spell level, person's health etc, so tie spell level, or caster level, to damage in hit points)</p><p></p><p>Defilers are just more powerful, because of defiling. Go read the boxed set, guys, admit it, live with it, love it, make rules for it, and slaughter PC defilers toot sweet <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Dark Sun, 1st boxed set, Rules Book, page 26-27, and chapter 7 magic for defiling rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Defilers drain life to power spells, preservers don't. So, make it that Defilers can't cast spells if there is no life to suck out! This doesn't bother preservers at all.</p><p></p><p>Making defilers drain animal health (hit points) makes them able to use spells in desert, but at a cost (slaves, animals etc). Also works great for RP: imagine a defiler, with a bodyguard, herding slaves....</p><p></p><p>And WOTC do make mistakes <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>Think outside the box, enjoy Athas being different, don't try and make it fit the metagame, <em>make the game fit the setting</em>. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverblade The Ench, post: 4200614, member: 19083"] Defiling isn't a, hm, "natural progression", it's something specifically nasty, and screwy to Athas. Defilers are not sorcerors, nope, not ever, specifically stated they are wizards, they have to learn spells etc (in the 1st boxed setit states they "gain spells faster", where as sorcerors gain spells slower than wizards!). Another possibility is just giving defilers extra matamagic feats., But I think the flavour is much better served by defilers automatically getting metamagic feat-effects on any spell cast...but require life energy to do so. No life, no spells, and the life drain kills life, including people (depending on spell level, person's health etc, so tie spell level, or caster level, to damage in hit points) Defilers are just more powerful, because of defiling. Go read the boxed set, guys, admit it, live with it, love it, make rules for it, and slaughter PC defilers toot sweet ;) Dark Sun, 1st boxed set, Rules Book, page 26-27, and chapter 7 magic for defiling rules. Defilers drain life to power spells, preservers don't. So, make it that Defilers can't cast spells if there is no life to suck out! This doesn't bother preservers at all. Making defilers drain animal health (hit points) makes them able to use spells in desert, but at a cost (slaves, animals etc). Also works great for RP: imagine a defiler, with a bodyguard, herding slaves.... And WOTC do make mistakes :p Think outside the box, enjoy Athas being different, don't try and make it fit the metagame, [I]make the game fit the setting[/I]. :) [/QUOTE]
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