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I don't get the dislike of healing surges
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5699604" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Ok, that's a DM issue, not a game one. For one, leaders as a monster type don't generally grant healing to critters. Secondly, critters (again, there are exceptions) only have, at most, 1 healing surge, so, you're looking at getting back, maybe, 10-20 hit points per encounter. Or, effectively, gaining one more hit.</p><p></p><p>I'm going to point out your DM on this one because that's an odd duck right there.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you were facing off with a bunch of incorporeal weakening undead like wraiths, then I TOTALLY understand the grind. Gack, I made that mistake. Whoever thought it was a good idea to have a monster that takes half damage from attacks, and then add the power to half the damage that a given PC can do was doing some serious binge drinking at the time.</p><p></p><p>So, yeah, you can certainly have grind in 4e. I get that. But, a lot of the issue is with encounter design and a few outliers on the critter lists not so much with the system itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5699604, member: 22779"] Ok, that's a DM issue, not a game one. For one, leaders as a monster type don't generally grant healing to critters. Secondly, critters (again, there are exceptions) only have, at most, 1 healing surge, so, you're looking at getting back, maybe, 10-20 hit points per encounter. Or, effectively, gaining one more hit. I'm going to point out your DM on this one because that's an odd duck right there. Now, if you were facing off with a bunch of incorporeal weakening undead like wraiths, then I TOTALLY understand the grind. Gack, I made that mistake. Whoever thought it was a good idea to have a monster that takes half damage from attacks, and then add the power to half the damage that a given PC can do was doing some serious binge drinking at the time. So, yeah, you can certainly have grind in 4e. I get that. But, a lot of the issue is with encounter design and a few outliers on the critter lists not so much with the system itself. [/QUOTE]
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