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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 4336950" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p>Back. Cheers to the new ENWorld. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> I wanted to make a comment related to my previous posts, which is relevant to the balance topic of this thread.</p><p></p><p> Remember Drizzt Do'Urden? You know him, right? I think we all do. He is a very famous character. A drow, made legendary by a very fine writer by the name of Salvatore.</p><p></p><p> But what made drow - *drow* - famous in the first place?</p><p></p><p> What made drow famous is that they were able to multiclass AND in some cases they DID NOT HAVE level limits.</p><p> Drow females could advance to Unlimited Levels as clerics, and very high as wizards.</p><p> Drow males could advance to Unlimited Levels as wizards.</p><p> Both could advance very high as fighters.</p><p></p><p> This - along with their innate powers (especially Magic Resistance) and there fearsome disposition - made them the threat that they were.</p><p> Or, to paraphrase Gary Gygax:</p><p></p><p> The drow had obtained the might to achieve their dream: to reconquer the surface, and to utterly destroy the elves. The only thing (the *only* thing) stopping them, seemed to be the fact that they were simply no longer interested in doing so. They had become content with their world in the Underdark.</p><p> Of course, that could change at any time, and when it did, may the Elven Gods help everyone, because against the drow nobody could hope to stand.</p><p></p><p> And why would nobody be able to hope to stand against the drow?</p><p> Because the drow could be FIGHTERS AND WIZARDS AND CLERICS, have all the benefits of these classes simultaneously, WITHOUT LEVEL LIMITS or with high level limits.</p><p> And since drow lived to over 1,000 years of age, they could achieve levels in cleric and wizard undreamed of by human clerics and wizards, since humans were short lived.</p><p> Back in those days, we were talking 40th, 50th, 100th level. With a thousand years to work on the subject, the drow could achieve titanic power!</p><p></p><p> If a few humans could, in their short lifetimes, obtain 30th level, there was no question what the drow - with a thousand years and an ultimate attitude problem - could accomplish.</p><p></p><p> And all this, because of one change in one basic rule: the removal of level limits from some classes accessable by the drow. Changing that one rule, made them stronger than everyone else.</p><p></p><p> EDIT: Of course, the GDQ modules helped make the drow famous, too. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 4336950, member: 2020"] Back. Cheers to the new ENWorld. :) I wanted to make a comment related to my previous posts, which is relevant to the balance topic of this thread. Remember Drizzt Do'Urden? You know him, right? I think we all do. He is a very famous character. A drow, made legendary by a very fine writer by the name of Salvatore. But what made drow - *drow* - famous in the first place? What made drow famous is that they were able to multiclass AND in some cases they DID NOT HAVE level limits. Drow females could advance to Unlimited Levels as clerics, and very high as wizards. Drow males could advance to Unlimited Levels as wizards. Both could advance very high as fighters. This - along with their innate powers (especially Magic Resistance) and there fearsome disposition - made them the threat that they were. Or, to paraphrase Gary Gygax: The drow had obtained the might to achieve their dream: to reconquer the surface, and to utterly destroy the elves. The only thing (the *only* thing) stopping them, seemed to be the fact that they were simply no longer interested in doing so. They had become content with their world in the Underdark. Of course, that could change at any time, and when it did, may the Elven Gods help everyone, because against the drow nobody could hope to stand. And why would nobody be able to hope to stand against the drow? Because the drow could be FIGHTERS AND WIZARDS AND CLERICS, have all the benefits of these classes simultaneously, WITHOUT LEVEL LIMITS or with high level limits. And since drow lived to over 1,000 years of age, they could achieve levels in cleric and wizard undreamed of by human clerics and wizards, since humans were short lived. Back in those days, we were talking 40th, 50th, 100th level. With a thousand years to work on the subject, the drow could achieve titanic power! If a few humans could, in their short lifetimes, obtain 30th level, there was no question what the drow - with a thousand years and an ultimate attitude problem - could accomplish. And all this, because of one change in one basic rule: the removal of level limits from some classes accessable by the drow. Changing that one rule, made them stronger than everyone else. EDIT: Of course, the GDQ modules helped make the drow famous, too. :) [/QUOTE]
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