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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9024623" data-attributes="member: 6750235"><p>Most rituals are 1st level and the arcane spell list has the longest list of rituals that can be added with spells prepared. Additional prepared spells are granted by patron and those spells are still split among only 5 levels so there's additional room for taking rituals above 1st-level or adding 1st-level rituals outside of <em>book of shadows</em>.</p><p></p><p>So I do just have many of those rituals. The hoops are just a time delay that typically takes "this happened". It's not like we play out the casting time for <em>book of shadows </em>in real game time.</p><p></p><p>I prepared spells with the ritual tag and used <em>book of shadows</em> to add to that as needed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not a 1st-level ability because the familiar's stats are based on the warlock level regardless of pact. </p><p></p><p>With the familiar example, it's less easily replaced but not less useful. The warlock cannot take <em>favor of the chain master</em> but that just means taking a different invocation instead. The familiar has the same stats and basic abilities.</p><p></p><p>With the blade example, every single warlock can use the ability to add <em>extra attack </em>at that level, and use caster stat for attack and damage.</p><p></p><p>With the book example, every single warlock can add caster stat to damage and add those rituals and add those cantrips. It takes more time to change those but it's still extra magic and cantrips. In this case, every spell caster with access to <em>wish </em>might as well just have extra cantrips and rituals. It's a cheap downtime upgrade.</p><p></p><p>I don't like that because it marginalizes significant subclass traits. It's the type of mechanic that's worth pointing out now to watch out for potentially overpowered interactions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 9024623, member: 6750235"] Most rituals are 1st level and the arcane spell list has the longest list of rituals that can be added with spells prepared. Additional prepared spells are granted by patron and those spells are still split among only 5 levels so there's additional room for taking rituals above 1st-level or adding 1st-level rituals outside of [I]book of shadows[/I]. So I do just have many of those rituals. The hoops are just a time delay that typically takes "this happened". It's not like we play out the casting time for [I]book of shadows [/I]in real game time. I prepared spells with the ritual tag and used [I]book of shadows[/I] to add to that as needed. It's not a 1st-level ability because the familiar's stats are based on the warlock level regardless of pact. With the familiar example, it's less easily replaced but not less useful. The warlock cannot take [I]favor of the chain master[/I] but that just means taking a different invocation instead. The familiar has the same stats and basic abilities. With the blade example, every single warlock can use the ability to add [I]extra attack [/I]at that level, and use caster stat for attack and damage. With the book example, every single warlock can add caster stat to damage and add those rituals and add those cantrips. It takes more time to change those but it's still extra magic and cantrips. In this case, every spell caster with access to [I]wish [/I]might as well just have extra cantrips and rituals. It's a cheap downtime upgrade. I don't like that because it marginalizes significant subclass traits. It's the type of mechanic that's worth pointing out now to watch out for potentially overpowered interactions. [/QUOTE]
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