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I really don't think it should be called the "ORC license"
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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8911408" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I think you're making a pretty big error here.</p><p></p><p>You think your opinion is mainstream, but it's actually, far, far, far out on the rim, opinion-wise.</p><p></p><p>This is easy to see if you look at how PoC and other minority RPG designers are reacting to ORC, which is not going "OMG BUT ORCS ARE RACIST!". That's not how things go today - today you reclaim things you like, you don't abandon them unless they're beyond help. And Orcs have never been beyond help. Even back in the '90s they were starting to get reclaimed, starting to become "just people" (like it or not), via multiple RPGs.</p><p></p><p>Hell, let me go further - that started in the late '80s, in Shadowrun! Orcs were people! People who faced terrible and unfair prejudice. That's an '80s idea. WotC screwed up big with 5E and tried to push Orcs back into a racist corner, particularly in Volo's, but that's not representative of the industry - and even WotC 180'd on that (the 1D&D conception of Orcs is absolutely at odds with the Volo's one).</p><p></p><p>Like, citation needed, man, and it needs to be actual RPG designers/commentators (indie, sure, but ones who've actually done stuff, got stuff on itch.io at least and so on), not like far-out Twitter people who run a podcast with a 130 listeners or whatever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8911408, member: 18"] I think you're making a pretty big error here. You think your opinion is mainstream, but it's actually, far, far, far out on the rim, opinion-wise. This is easy to see if you look at how PoC and other minority RPG designers are reacting to ORC, which is not going "OMG BUT ORCS ARE RACIST!". That's not how things go today - today you reclaim things you like, you don't abandon them unless they're beyond help. And Orcs have never been beyond help. Even back in the '90s they were starting to get reclaimed, starting to become "just people" (like it or not), via multiple RPGs. Hell, let me go further - that started in the late '80s, in Shadowrun! Orcs were people! People who faced terrible and unfair prejudice. That's an '80s idea. WotC screwed up big with 5E and tried to push Orcs back into a racist corner, particularly in Volo's, but that's not representative of the industry - and even WotC 180'd on that (the 1D&D conception of Orcs is absolutely at odds with the Volo's one). Like, citation needed, man, and it needs to be actual RPG designers/commentators (indie, sure, but ones who've actually done stuff, got stuff on itch.io at least and so on), not like far-out Twitter people who run a podcast with a 130 listeners or whatever. [/QUOTE]
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