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I think I am going to stop using solo monsters.
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<blockquote data-quote="Imaculata" data-source="post: 7042235" data-attributes="member: 6801286"><p>In my experience, even in 3rd edition a powerful single opponent can quickly be beaten to a pulp by a large group of <strong><u>eight</u></strong> adventurers who have a surprise round, and a foe that isn't played to its strengths.</p><p></p><p>CR's seem mostly designed around groups of 4 to 5 players, and the DM is expected to do more than just drop a monster into a room.</p><p></p><p>If I drop a high CR dragon into a cave, and eight players all gang up on him from all sides with surprise attacks, then that dragon doesn't stand a chance, regardless of edition. If on the other hand I place the dragon on a ledge, out of reach of the players, and with enough space for it to fly, that changes things a bit. If I then also add some environmental hazards (geysers of lava), and some trash mobs (young dragons for example)... well now you have a proper encounter. And I think the game expects the DM to do this, if they actually want to make that one foe a challenge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaculata, post: 7042235, member: 6801286"] In my experience, even in 3rd edition a powerful single opponent can quickly be beaten to a pulp by a large group of [B][U]eight[/U][/B] adventurers who have a surprise round, and a foe that isn't played to its strengths. CR's seem mostly designed around groups of 4 to 5 players, and the DM is expected to do more than just drop a monster into a room. If I drop a high CR dragon into a cave, and eight players all gang up on him from all sides with surprise attacks, then that dragon doesn't stand a chance, regardless of edition. If on the other hand I place the dragon on a ledge, out of reach of the players, and with enough space for it to fly, that changes things a bit. If I then also add some environmental hazards (geysers of lava), and some trash mobs (young dragons for example)... well now you have a proper encounter. And I think the game expects the DM to do this, if they actually want to make that one foe a challenge. [/QUOTE]
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