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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 5522800" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>The Shade and Vryloka have sort of taken the concept of themes in terms of giving utility powers. They could probably make races more like themes (they already have the racial power, which is an encounter power you get for free, and that is not as powerful as a 'real' encounter or utilty power ... kind of like the themes get) just by giving racial options for attack powers and utilities at higher levels. Utility is probably the easiest ... a few races (dragonborn, genasi, minataur, etc) make a bit more sense for attack powers than other ones. (Although for a gnome you could have a power that let's you hit something and go invisible, or an eladrin hits something and teleports, etc)</p><p> </p><p>And, considering the way the vampire only has one option at most levels, it could be turned into a theme pretty easily (although implementing the whole "blood dependency" thing would be lost to some extent).</p><p> </p><p>The class, as they put it, is a "pure" vampire ... a theme/race would be useful for say, a rogue or blackguard, etc that happens to be a vampire as well. Of course, they did make a race for that with the living vampire. And they sort of have a theme, with the Vampire bloodline feat tree and paragon paths. The latter could probably be reworked into an actual theme (the initial power would work fine as the 1st level encounter power for the theme, and some of the powers they offer as retraining via feats could easily have been just part of the options you could take as part of the theme.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 5522800, member: 63763"] The Shade and Vryloka have sort of taken the concept of themes in terms of giving utility powers. They could probably make races more like themes (they already have the racial power, which is an encounter power you get for free, and that is not as powerful as a 'real' encounter or utilty power ... kind of like the themes get) just by giving racial options for attack powers and utilities at higher levels. Utility is probably the easiest ... a few races (dragonborn, genasi, minataur, etc) make a bit more sense for attack powers than other ones. (Although for a gnome you could have a power that let's you hit something and go invisible, or an eladrin hits something and teleports, etc) And, considering the way the vampire only has one option at most levels, it could be turned into a theme pretty easily (although implementing the whole "blood dependency" thing would be lost to some extent). The class, as they put it, is a "pure" vampire ... a theme/race would be useful for say, a rogue or blackguard, etc that happens to be a vampire as well. Of course, they did make a race for that with the living vampire. And they sort of have a theme, with the Vampire bloodline feat tree and paragon paths. The latter could probably be reworked into an actual theme (the initial power would work fine as the 1st level encounter power for the theme, and some of the powers they offer as retraining via feats could easily have been just part of the options you could take as part of the theme. [/QUOTE]
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