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If an NPC is telling the truth, what's the Insight DC to know they're telling the truth?
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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7588660" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>For all the back and forth on this topic that we seem to have every time it comes up, I think the majority of game play would actually be quite similar for most of us. </p><p></p><p>However there are still things I don't think I will ever understand:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Why is "I use [INSERT SKILL]" forbidden if the intent and action is clear? Because 80% of the time when people say it in my game it is. That other 20%? I ask for clarification. I encourage more descriptive play, but that may be as simple as "I use [INSERT SKILL] by doing [INSERT DETAIL]".</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How are you <em>not</em> diminishing the values of investment in skills if a person can just describe what they're doing to get an automatic success*?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Why is finding/disabling the once in a blue moon trap/secret door with a couple of dice rolls a deal breaker for you if you aren't the person doing it and it takes a minute or so to resolve? It's a minor speed bump I put in for flavor, not the focus of the game for me.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Why is it a big deal if the DM wants to keep the players guessing about whether or not the PC is using deception by having people roll an insight check?</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p><em>*I don't know how many people do this, but at least some do or they have not made it clear if they ever call for a roll. [EDIT: there are times I don't bother with a roll because someone's skill is high enough they're not going to meaningfully fail]</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7588660, member: 6801845"] For all the back and forth on this topic that we seem to have every time it comes up, I think the majority of game play would actually be quite similar for most of us. However there are still things I don't think I will ever understand: [LIST] [*]Why is "I use [INSERT SKILL]" forbidden if the intent and action is clear? Because 80% of the time when people say it in my game it is. That other 20%? I ask for clarification. I encourage more descriptive play, but that may be as simple as "I use [INSERT SKILL] by doing [INSERT DETAIL]". [*]How are you [I]not[/I] diminishing the values of investment in skills if a person can just describe what they're doing to get an automatic success*? [*]Why is finding/disabling the once in a blue moon trap/secret door with a couple of dice rolls a deal breaker for you if you aren't the person doing it and it takes a minute or so to resolve? It's a minor speed bump I put in for flavor, not the focus of the game for me. [*]Why is it a big deal if the DM wants to keep the players guessing about whether or not the PC is using deception by having people roll an insight check? [/LIST] [I]*I don't know how many people do this, but at least some do or they have not made it clear if they ever call for a roll. [EDIT: there are times I don't bother with a roll because someone's skill is high enough they're not going to meaningfully fail][/I] [/QUOTE]
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