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If an NPC is telling the truth, what's the Insight DC to know they're telling the truth?
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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7589596" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>Given that old school travellers had a significant investment into rolling up sub sectors or systems on the fly as you entered them, having the check determine the player gets to decide the nature of the coded messages or even really if they matter seems very plausible as far as fitting that game. Many find memories of games ran out of my black books.</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Given 5e's "big tent" aspirations, I would expect there to be different approaches taken at different tables to how setting and details are established, whether lore checks feed into this or rather take it as input, whether provision of information is part of framing or an affirmative advantage, etc."</p><p></p><p>I sure hope so. By like 30m into last night's session, the PCs had chosen a path that I had not expected but that made sense in it's own way, surprising not only me, that's expected, but them!!! And before that, they had dealt me a frighin' queen of hearts which meant (even though they did not know about that card) it was actually one of the better choices!!!</p><p></p><p>Great fun as the evening progresses and without me doing a thing they have split their own party up with several days of travel between the groups and one group is "inside the lion's den" - ok - soaking in a hot tub inside the lion's den with VIP treatment - but still.</p><p></p><p>Queen of friggin' hearts... go figure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7589596, member: 6919838"] Given that old school travellers had a significant investment into rolling up sub sectors or systems on the fly as you entered them, having the check determine the player gets to decide the nature of the coded messages or even really if they matter seems very plausible as far as fitting that game. Many find memories of games ran out of my black books. "Given 5e's "big tent" aspirations, I would expect there to be different approaches taken at different tables to how setting and details are established, whether lore checks feed into this or rather take it as input, whether provision of information is part of framing or an affirmative advantage, etc." I sure hope so. By like 30m into last night's session, the PCs had chosen a path that I had not expected but that made sense in it's own way, surprising not only me, that's expected, but them!!! And before that, they had dealt me a frighin' queen of hearts which meant (even though they did not know about that card) it was actually one of the better choices!!! Great fun as the evening progresses and without me doing a thing they have split their own party up with several days of travel between the groups and one group is "inside the lion's den" - ok - soaking in a hot tub inside the lion's den with VIP treatment - but still. Queen of friggin' hearts... go figure. [/QUOTE]
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