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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 6672582" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>And it is something that happens in real life as well.</p><p></p><p>HOWEVER, in most cases the <em>HERO</em> does not start off by placing the would-be sacrifices into harms way <em>as the necessary prerequisite of achieving his goal</em>- the trope is presented as a choice between bad options that he must make the call on. Nor does the Hero conceal his role in the sacrifice. Nor does he blame another for his action. Nor might the plan be jeopardized if the Hero's true role and actions were to be uncovered.</p><p></p><p>The Hero usually doesn't find it necessary to trick semi-divine, semi-benevolent, nearly omniscient beings into not interfering with his plan.</p><p></p><p>The plan is Machiavellian- not heroic- in its inception and execution. He wanted to do it his way. Only.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would say that the requirement that- for the plan to succeed- you must commit an atrocity AND successfully blame it on the blameless makes for an inherently flawed plan. If the truth is ever revealed, it could make the duped discard the progress made, and return to previously belligerence. Possibly even more pissed off than before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 6672582, member: 19675"] And it is something that happens in real life as well. HOWEVER, in most cases the [I]HERO[/I] does not start off by placing the would-be sacrifices into harms way [I]as the necessary prerequisite of achieving his goal[/I]- the trope is presented as a choice between bad options that he must make the call on. Nor does the Hero conceal his role in the sacrifice. Nor does he blame another for his action. Nor might the plan be jeopardized if the Hero's true role and actions were to be uncovered. The Hero usually doesn't find it necessary to trick semi-divine, semi-benevolent, nearly omniscient beings into not interfering with his plan. The plan is Machiavellian- not heroic- in its inception and execution. He wanted to do it his way. Only. I would say that the requirement that- for the plan to succeed- you must commit an atrocity AND successfully blame it on the blameless makes for an inherently flawed plan. If the truth is ever revealed, it could make the duped discard the progress made, and return to previously belligerence. Possibly even more pissed off than before. [/QUOTE]
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