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Illusion spell questions: Silent Image and Mirror Image
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<blockquote data-quote="Macbrea" data-source="post: 244245" data-attributes="member: 1517"><p>My original post last night got ate in the move. So, I will write the short version of it, again.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Silent image and Minor image are additive spells. They allow you to add things to the scene. So, you cannot make the wagon disappear. You could make a wall appear and if the archers were firing at you they would probably stop. Why? In a world of magic were people can put up walls of stone archers will expect such things. If suddenly there is a wall in front of your target you will probably choose another target. As you know your arrows cannot pass through the wall. Why would you fire at it in the first place?</p><p></p><p>Hallucintory terrain allows you to change the terrain but you cannot remove objects from it, such as people or equipment. To do this you would need invisibility. Invisibility is one of the few spells that can remove the ability to to see the object from the object. It isn't mind effecting so it changes the light not the mind of the person that is viewing it. </p><p></p><p>As to wether you could add fog to an area the answer is yes. That is an additive effect to the area. Darkness might be a problem as its subtractive and therefor shouldn't be allowed. If you wish to cast darkness use the spell for it. </p><p></p><p>Now, comes as to wether your allies are affected by you laying down an illusion. The answer is you cannot change the area of effect of your spells unless you are the arch mage prestige class. So, if the effect is line of sight. Then everyone in the line of effect is effected by the spell. You can give them advantages to disbiieving it by telling them its an illusion, which are +4 to disbief checks. </p><p></p><p>As a general rule to help your DM:</p><p></p><p>All the minor illusions are additive to a scene. </p><p>Invisibility and improved invisibility are subtractive. </p><p>Shadows are partially real and should be treated as such.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Macbrea, post: 244245, member: 1517"] My original post last night got ate in the move. So, I will write the short version of it, again. Silent image and Minor image are additive spells. They allow you to add things to the scene. So, you cannot make the wagon disappear. You could make a wall appear and if the archers were firing at you they would probably stop. Why? In a world of magic were people can put up walls of stone archers will expect such things. If suddenly there is a wall in front of your target you will probably choose another target. As you know your arrows cannot pass through the wall. Why would you fire at it in the first place? Hallucintory terrain allows you to change the terrain but you cannot remove objects from it, such as people or equipment. To do this you would need invisibility. Invisibility is one of the few spells that can remove the ability to to see the object from the object. It isn't mind effecting so it changes the light not the mind of the person that is viewing it. As to wether you could add fog to an area the answer is yes. That is an additive effect to the area. Darkness might be a problem as its subtractive and therefor shouldn't be allowed. If you wish to cast darkness use the spell for it. Now, comes as to wether your allies are affected by you laying down an illusion. The answer is you cannot change the area of effect of your spells unless you are the arch mage prestige class. So, if the effect is line of sight. Then everyone in the line of effect is effected by the spell. You can give them advantages to disbiieving it by telling them its an illusion, which are +4 to disbief checks. As a general rule to help your DM: All the minor illusions are additive to a scene. Invisibility and improved invisibility are subtractive. Shadows are partially real and should be treated as such. [/QUOTE]
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