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<blockquote data-quote="HardcoreDandDGirl" data-source="post: 6395560" data-attributes="member: 82746"><p>1st, thank you, and second I think your post nailed most of the argument in a fair and balanced way...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>if every picture looked like the 2e hanging out porn, I would be against it... but when the art of 5e makes women look like women AND Bad ass instead of falling out, I believe wotc is doing better. Infact I love the 5e art. There are some sexy and some full plate and some inbetween. </p><p></p><p> this and </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>this </p><p></p><p>at the end of the day there is no 100% on this. I'm not just a woman, I'm Me. I don't speak for all women, hell I don't speak for all twenty something women... I speak for me. There is a debate that could be had, but I don't believe that we are doing it well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>this thread has gone into science and feminism and art, and inclusion and even edition wars. Is there really anything left to say?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To again summarize. I opened my 4e book wanting to make a cool warrior with a high str, I found dragon born as a cool half dragon like race with cool fluff and +2 str and a breath weapon. I could see a female dragon born picture, but a dragon born mini (yea you try finding female minis not meant for a prono) and easily identify her as a woman. If I opened it up and found the cool fun str race had women only differentiated by say color or ploomage... I would have been disappointed... it would have felt to me like 'women are only strong when they aren't women'. WotC did market research and found having anthropomorphic races look female was better for them... and I agree. </p><p></p><p>That isn't to say that no race can ever not look female... thri kreen seem fine as it... although I would kill for a female warforged. (I mean really these things were made... are you telling me no perv made buffy bots, no women made strong warrior women?</p><p></p><p>on the other hand if art had dragon boobs falling out every second, that too would piss me off. Can we get a middle ground...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardcoreDandDGirl, post: 6395560, member: 82746"] 1st, thank you, and second I think your post nailed most of the argument in a fair and balanced way... if every picture looked like the 2e hanging out porn, I would be against it... but when the art of 5e makes women look like women AND Bad ass instead of falling out, I believe wotc is doing better. Infact I love the 5e art. There are some sexy and some full plate and some inbetween. this and this at the end of the day there is no 100% on this. I'm not just a woman, I'm Me. I don't speak for all women, hell I don't speak for all twenty something women... I speak for me. There is a debate that could be had, but I don't believe that we are doing it well. this thread has gone into science and feminism and art, and inclusion and even edition wars. Is there really anything left to say? To again summarize. I opened my 4e book wanting to make a cool warrior with a high str, I found dragon born as a cool half dragon like race with cool fluff and +2 str and a breath weapon. I could see a female dragon born picture, but a dragon born mini (yea you try finding female minis not meant for a prono) and easily identify her as a woman. If I opened it up and found the cool fun str race had women only differentiated by say color or ploomage... I would have been disappointed... it would have felt to me like 'women are only strong when they aren't women'. WotC did market research and found having anthropomorphic races look female was better for them... and I agree. That isn't to say that no race can ever not look female... thri kreen seem fine as it... although I would kill for a female warforged. (I mean really these things were made... are you telling me no perv made buffy bots, no women made strong warrior women? on the other hand if art had dragon boobs falling out every second, that too would piss me off. Can we get a middle ground... [/QUOTE]
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