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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 2415192" data-attributes="member: 32164"><p>I think in most cases you're mistaking "observation" with opinion. People who do marketing have to look at the systems and what *most* people actually play. To say that more people play d20 than any other system is not exactly a matter for debate. If you asked marketing people why, most of them would have to conclude, as Ryan did, that it was because most of the people playing decided it was "better." That doesn't necessarily mean there isn't room for other systems. I suppose you could draw the computer OS analogy here, with d20 being Windows and Warhammer being the Mac OS. Personally, I think that analogy's false, as I think the Mac OS is superior, but don't feel the same way about <em>Warhammer</em>.</p><p></p><p>I played <em>Warhammer</em> with my group for the first time a few weeks ago. It was okay, but learning the system was a barrier for me. In fact, I was able to make a character without having the slightest idea how the system would work in play. We played a simplified version because we didn't know it. And for me, I don't see what the system added to my gaming experience. As an aside, our group has sorta decided that we only need one dark fantasy game - and we really like <em>Midnight</em> (two of us were eager to DM it), so we'll be shelving <em>Warhammer</em> except for sub-in games.</p><p></p><p>And that's the point. We're making the decision to play <em>Warhammer</em> based on its setting, not its system. I'd say the same thing is true for all but the most diehard of the old WFRP fans.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 2415192, member: 32164"] I think in most cases you're mistaking "observation" with opinion. People who do marketing have to look at the systems and what *most* people actually play. To say that more people play d20 than any other system is not exactly a matter for debate. If you asked marketing people why, most of them would have to conclude, as Ryan did, that it was because most of the people playing decided it was "better." That doesn't necessarily mean there isn't room for other systems. I suppose you could draw the computer OS analogy here, with d20 being Windows and Warhammer being the Mac OS. Personally, I think that analogy's false, as I think the Mac OS is superior, but don't feel the same way about [i]Warhammer[/i]. I played [i]Warhammer[/i] with my group for the first time a few weeks ago. It was okay, but learning the system was a barrier for me. In fact, I was able to make a character without having the slightest idea how the system would work in play. We played a simplified version because we didn't know it. And for me, I don't see what the system added to my gaming experience. As an aside, our group has sorta decided that we only need one dark fantasy game - and we really like [i]Midnight[/i] (two of us were eager to DM it), so we'll be shelving [i]Warhammer[/i] except for sub-in games. And that's the point. We're making the decision to play [i]Warhammer[/i] based on its setting, not its system. I'd say the same thing is true for all but the most diehard of the old WFRP fans. [/QUOTE]
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