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<blockquote data-quote="SweeneyTodd" data-source="post: 2415370" data-attributes="member: 9391"><p>We're just talking about our opinions, so I won't try to dissuade you. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I talked to my fiancee about Drama Points, and she went, "Well, yeah, obviously characters should succeed when it's dramatically appropriate." Before she started playing in our group, she'd never touched a roleplaying game. She keeps telling me five pages of rules is too crunchy, and we should try to get it down to one. But she has no problem at all coming up with interesting things that could happen and possible outcomes. </p><p></p><p>Talk to a woman. Ask her how her day went. I promise you if she had a bad day, you'll see that she doesn't need to learn narrative structure, focus on conflict, or characterization. She already has those tools <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>(If anything, the guys I had to keep working on till they "got it" were the D&Ders. They were the ones who were weirded out by scene-level resolution or an explicit session structure. The newbies went, "Oh, so if I want my character's troubled family life to be important, I should spend more points on it? That makes sense." The vets probably spent more time unlearning stuff than the newbies did learning.)</p><p></p><p>I'm just trying to say that if you think imagining people dealing with conflicts with other people in an everyday environment is less intuitive than dungeon crawling, you're coming at it from a very specific mindset. People who've never gamed before in their life can tell you an interesting/funny/sad story about when somebody they knew ran into trouble and had to deal with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SweeneyTodd, post: 2415370, member: 9391"] We're just talking about our opinions, so I won't try to dissuade you. :) I talked to my fiancee about Drama Points, and she went, "Well, yeah, obviously characters should succeed when it's dramatically appropriate." Before she started playing in our group, she'd never touched a roleplaying game. She keeps telling me five pages of rules is too crunchy, and we should try to get it down to one. But she has no problem at all coming up with interesting things that could happen and possible outcomes. Talk to a woman. Ask her how her day went. I promise you if she had a bad day, you'll see that she doesn't need to learn narrative structure, focus on conflict, or characterization. She already has those tools :) (If anything, the guys I had to keep working on till they "got it" were the D&Ders. They were the ones who were weirded out by scene-level resolution or an explicit session structure. The newbies went, "Oh, so if I want my character's troubled family life to be important, I should spend more points on it? That makes sense." The vets probably spent more time unlearning stuff than the newbies did learning.) I'm just trying to say that if you think imagining people dealing with conflicts with other people in an everyday environment is less intuitive than dungeon crawling, you're coming at it from a very specific mindset. People who've never gamed before in their life can tell you an interesting/funny/sad story about when somebody they knew ran into trouble and had to deal with it. [/QUOTE]
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