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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 147279" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p><strong>Answers, rulings, and comments concerning your posts from page 5</strong></p><p></p><p>Mr. Draco</p><p> </p><p> Ok, I'm caught up, but one question: what's an avangion?</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: A butterfly. You turn from human to butterfly as you progress from 20th to 30th level (2nd edition.) A very large butterfly.</p><p> You gain enormous power, enormous special abilities, and you become a very great power for good and life, on the parched, ravaged world of Athas.</p><p> To this date, it has never been successfully accomplished, although some Preservers (good mages) have gotten close.</p><p></p><p> Avangions are really an Athian concept - they can exist elsewhere, but the concept - of a butterfly that brings light and good to a world of evil, ruined by Defiling magic, full of hate and fear - is really best suited to Athas.</p><p> Elsewhere, it has far less meaning - you are just another powerful being.</p><p></p><p> You must be able to throw psionic enchantments to become an Avangion - that is, you must be a mage and psionicist both, and have achieved 20th level in both classes.</p><p></p><p> Of course, with 11th level magic, all of those rules go out the window ...</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The Forsaken One</p><p> </p><p> As far as I know a ultimate good creature of immense power. </p><p> Native to Athas.</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: Yes. </p><p> </p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Tokiwong</p><p> </p><p> Iuz the spoon king </p><p></p><p> Hope you read that post hehe, I thought it was quite amusing </p><p> "The Spoon King... hmm what a delicious idea..." Iuz quips...</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: I missed that one. Spoon King, eh? Hmmm ... well, you DID dig out the brains of someone you believed was a traitor with a rusty spoon (Iuz did do this), so I guess you can be annointed Spoon King.</p><p></p><p> OOC: Mr. Draco short answer is that an Avangion is a type of creature good wizards (preservers) ones who do not raavge the land only taking enough may become... it is a magical creature and beyond that i know little... but they are native to Athas</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: I wish to elaborate on this. On Athas, you can be a mage, or you can be a mage that advances at twice the normal rate.</p><p> This second kind of mage is known as a Defiler, for his magic uses up the lifeforce of the land, killing plants in the local vicinity, rendering the soil sterile.</p><p> The more powerful the spell, the wider the area of destruction, and the deaths spread to animals, and finally, at 10th level, Defiling Magic kills humans, demihumans, and humanoids.</p><p></p><p> Defilers are the reason Athas is a vast desert, devoid of any standing water (except the Last Sea), where the temperature rockets to 140 Fahrenheit in the shade by day, and drops to 0 Fahrenheit at night (except on the Forest Ridge, where it goes up to only 100 by day, and drops to freezing at night.)</p><p> And those are the friendly regions. On the tablelands, it's worse.</p><p> Go south to the Blackened Lands, and it gets far worse yet (and there are legions of sentient, intelligent undead there ... and, since Acererak's Ascendance, guess who they now serve?)</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Sollir Furryfoot</p><p> </p><p> Avangions and the Dragon Kings were once mortals, but through 10th level Magic and Psionics as well as time they ascended to what they are...Avangions are good as opposed to Dragon Kings being normally evil....Melkor you still haven't answered my question...did you even *think* about Athas before we all posted our plans and I posted that I wished to make peace with the Dragon Kings there? </p><p></p><p> Also, I will claim Mina and her Knights (as well as the Dead of Krynn), Hellmaster and Mina have several similarities, I think they would do well together </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: Very well. I will put down that Sollir is claiming Mina and the Knights of Neraka.</p><p></p><p> NOTE TO SOLLIR: </p><p></p><p> Mina and the Knights of Neraka and the Church of Mercy (claimed by Creamsteak) CANNOT AND WILL NOT get along!! </p><p> Cooperation between them is possible only in total extremis, and neutral relations are not possible - if you have not read Dragons of a Fallen Sun and Dragons of a Lost Star, buy the paperbacks and read them.</p><p> You won't be disappointed, either by the books, or by Mina.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Zelda Themelin</p><p> </p><p> Yep, but Dragon Kings got much cooler ascension ritual. Sacrifices and ziggurats (how you write it) and stuff, oh, and they get to look cooler too. </p><p> Avangion brings to my mind some cross between butterfly and alien (you know, greys). I truly wonder how they are ultimate creatures of good, well, Athas is a weird world.</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: </p><p></p><p> Dragon Metamorphosis is sorta painful ... and it requires you sacrifice thousands of people ... it's not the nicest experience.</p><p></p><p> Avangion Metamorphosis is peaceful, pleasant, and requires no sacrifice of people.</p><p> It takes longer though - it takes years, and possibly decades.</p><p></p><p> Again, with 11th level magic, those rules go out the window ... (sighs)</p><p> </p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Mr. Draco</p><p></p><p> Edena, a question: While looking over the 11th level combat rules, i noticed that an attacker can never take any damage (i.e.- loose any of their mages/clerics). Is this intentional?</p><p> </p><p> IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ:</p><p></p><p> Correct, Mr. Draco. You never lose any of your mages or clerics when you make an Attack.</p><p> </p><p> However, you lose mages and clerics when you are Attacked. How many do you lose? That depends on the strength of the Attack, strength of the Defense, and my dice rolling (there is some luck involved.) </p><p> </p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Alyx</p><p> </p><p> OOC: My claim to power </p><p></p><p> Edena, </p><p></p><p> I would like to claim to 11th level magic of the Church of Toril. To be honest, I had at first considered to remain out of this claiming session, but 11th level magic is looking more and more like a neccessity in the coming ages of darkness. </p><p> If I get the time, I'll try and offer further justification, out of a personal need for such. </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: You don't need a justification. You are perfectly fit for the Church of Toril. If Reprisal runs the United Commonwealth, he will have a dependable ally at his side.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Sollir Furryfoot</p><p> </p><p> (article accidentally deleted)</p><p> </p><p> ANSWER: Noted, Sollir. I will change your claim to Valky's Unseelie.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> dagger</p><p></p><p> Which ones are open? </p><p></p><p> The United Commonwealth of Toril is now an open power. </p><p> The Eternal Empire of Toril is now an open power. </p><p> The Church of Toril is now an open power. </p><p> The Church of Mercy is now an open power. </p><p> The Scro Star League of Toril is now an open power. </p><p> Mina and her Army are now an open power.</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: Well, as of the MOMENT I am writing this, here are the claims:</p><p></p><p> Alyx: Church of Toril (good)</p><p> Creamsteak: Church of Mercy (good)</p><p> Sollir: Mina and the Knights of Neraka (evil)</p><p> Tokiwong: Eternal Empire of Toril (neutral and evil) ('o Skoteinos may be contesting this claim)</p><p></p><p> Of course, you may contest any of these claims.</p><p></p><p> If Reprisal claims the United Commonwealth of Toril, however, it is automatically his.</p><p> </p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Reprisal</p><p> </p><p> I do believe that Creamsteak wanted to take over the Church of Mercy... </p><p></p><p> Oh yeah, hey everyone! </p><p></p><p> Post Edit: </p><p></p><p> After receiving an e-mail and sending one back, I'm thinking of returning to the fold, of course, I'm somewhat confounded by the entirety of these proceedings, but I should be able to handle it as long as I get some help in the beginning. </p><p> In any event, I'm going to ask Edena to put a hold on The United Commonwealth of Toril until I can make my decision of wether or not I want to dive into the deep end ...</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: I do not need to say how honored and delighted I am, to hear from you, Reprisal, once more.</p><p> I most certainly will put the United Commonwealth of Toril on hold, for you. </p><p> I hope you can play - the 100 billion people of the United Commonwealth are threatened ... enemy nations from abroad have obtained 11th level magic and threaten the UC with it. The Eternal Empire of Toril (Kara-Tur) threatens. The Scro Star League is arrogant now. </p><p> And worst of all, Reprisal, Realmspace is slowly sliding into Ravenloft. Of the sixth Touches needed to cause that to happen, two have occurred and number three is approaching.</p><p> The atrocities, mass murder, and flagrant use of the evil substance called Red Goo, has caused the Mists to rise, and to shroud Realmspace in a gloom, through which the sun shines blearily into Toril's green atmosphere.</p><p> Already, people are changing. They cannot die ... they regenerate or simply continue, mortally injured. But it is not a gift, this immortality. It is a trap.</p><p> People are taking delight in pain, and no clerics can heal them, or change their mentality back, and Loviatar's cult has flourished, and come out into the open - even the United Commonwealth can do nothing, for it's own soldiers would mutiny.</p><p> Sick, twisted ideas are coming into people's minds, and altruism and goodwill are fading.</p><p></p><p> And the Church of Shade, long an underground movement on Toril, has arisen in might on Oerth, which it has devastated, and now it is attacking Athas, seeking to destroy that world.</p><p> And now, with the Change, the Church of Shade may well launch an all out 11th level attack on the United Commonwealth, hoping to destroy your mages and clerics, thus depriving you of any magic above 10th level.</p><p></p><p> If that happens, the Church of Shade, with their 11th level magic versus your 10th level magic, would destroy or enslave your people, and the paradise - everything everyone worked so hard in the 2nd IR to achieve, all the countless millions of lives sacrificed and lost, all the wars, everything - would be undone.</p><p></p><p> Forrester long guarded the UC, and did a good job of protecting it. </p><p> Although ruthless, his tactics protected Realmspace.</p><p> But no more.</p><p></p><p> Now, Realmspace lies open to it's enemies, and the Mists of Ravenloft grow deeper and darker, fueled by hatred and fear, atrocities and mass murder, and by the power of the Red Goo (a substance comprised of the souls and spirits of those who fell in battle, their energy expended in that battle, negative emotions, and a great deal of evil magic. The Red Goo dissolves all living things it touches, automatically, unless they are shielded by magic or Oerthblood.)</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Serpenteye</p><p> </p><p> Hey, Mr Payne! Please join us. Your son Archcleric Hazen misses his daddy. </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: LOL. For your information, Reprisal, the Angels - who were protecting Realmspace - have abandoned their posts and moved to stand with Hazen.</p><p> Why they did this, is not clear.</p><p> WHY they altered reality so that your enemies could use 11th level magic in YOUR Crystal Sphere freely, NOBODY knows.</p><p></p><p> But all know they are most displeased with everyone, and they apparently wish everyone a chance to learn lessons.</p><p></p><p> Of the 90,000 PL that there were of Angels, only 20,000 PL remains.</p><p> The rest died fighting the Red Army, a terrible monstrous army that could have destroyed all of Greyspace and Realmspace, and which was brought to life out of the Red Goo by Iuz (Tokiwong) and especially by the Church of Shade (Melkor.) </p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Anabstercorian</p><p></p><p> IC Message to everybody </p><p></p><p> << My friends, my enemies. We have fought together, and we have fought against each other. But we all - ALL of us - Have a common enemy. And that enemy is great. You all know of whom I speak. >> </p><p><< I speak of Melkor, the Destroyer, the Consumer, the Raper, the Dominator, the Grinder of Souls, the Devourer of Hope, He Who Spawned The Red Army, The Bastard Son Of Oblivion and Despair. >> </p><p> << You all know that he's going to destroy the world first chance he gets. I recommend we crush him in to a one-dimensional point before he can do the same to us. >> </p><p> << I recommend we begin a focused attack on the magical assault capabilities of the Shade, and shatter his offensive power immediately. We have no chance of creating a lasting peace and denying the Dark Powers the pleasure of acquiring Oerth otherwise. His presence is too disruptive, his mind too antithetical to harmony, his form too blasphemous to the creed of peace and law for any sort of coexistence with him. >> </p><p> << I saw we KICK HIS ASS! Who is with me? >></p><p></p><p> ANSWER: Nice tactic. But it won't work on the people of Luna ... who you buried alive. All several million of them.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p> </p><p> dagger</p><p> </p><p> Im not sure what is claimed so ill claim # 7: The Nations of the Chosen of Mystra</p><p></p><p> I will put down your claim, Dagger.</p><p></p><p> Here are the claims so far, once more:</p><p></p><p> Alyx: Church of Toril (good)</p><p> Dagger: Nations of the Chosen of Mystra (neutral)</p><p> Creamsteak: Church of Mercy (good)</p><p> Sollir: Valky's Unseelie (evil)</p><p> Tokiwong: Eternal Empire of Oerth (evil) ('o Skoteinos may be contesting this claim.)</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> William Ronald</p><p></p><p> Late night replies </p><p></p><p>Hello, my friends: </p><p></p><p> I just e-mailed Gnomeworks about his computer problems. He seems to have some complex technical headaches. I think a delay of turn to let him fix it, and allow Maudlin and kaboom to return would be a good idea. </p><p> I have heard from Reprisal. He may return. If he does, here is an idea. Maybe he and Alyx can share the UC of Toril. As Mr. Draco and Anabstercorian (the former Riot Gear) know, Reprisal plays a bit differently from Forrester. I do hope Forrester returns. </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: I hope Forrester returns also. However, Reprisal gets full control of the UC if he returns - that is an absolute. Reprisal created the UC ... although he had help, the UC is truly Reprisal's child.</p><p> I will need a week or more before I am ready for Turn 7.</p><p> I have no problem with waiting for GnomeWorks, as long as everyone decides not to quit on me during the interlude!</p><p></p><p> Mr. Draco, you did have a question. The Oerth Alliance would have to consider any applications for membership. We do stand for religious tolerance and the rights of the individual. As President, I can call for a vote. We may even consider giving a potential member time to prove his true intentions. </p><p></p><p> (Your faction has had a few changes in direction, so some people may want to figure out your true intentions.) </p><p></p><p> Serpenteye -- The quote about Ian Payne was funny. Hazen is older than Ian Payne would be. He was already old during the Greyhawk Wars, 40 years before this IR. </p><p> Edena, I agree with you about the family feeling here in the IR. I may oppose some people here, but I do wish them well in life. </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: I like rping with you guys (and you, Zelda. You are our only female player.) I like you all. It has been great rping with you.</p><p> </p><p> Hazen greets any representatives of the Veiled Society as honored guests, and answers their questions. He will not jeopardize the security of the Oerth Alliance in doing so, however. </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: The Veiled Alliance is looking for aid and help, and knowledge, to overcome the Defilers and to overcome the Shade who are invading their world.</p><p></p><p> Ho Skoteinos, Hazen and Kalanyr already restored your dead NPCs. You did commit your forces to help with the battle in Veluna, so I have restored your NPCs. Allies should be rewarded. Hazen would like to have them attend one of his lectures on ethics. (Ho, some of your NPCs are evil. Hazen is being very nice to them, and suggesting they reform themselves. ) </p><p> Zelda, if you wish, the Kevellond League will restore your dead NPCs. However, I think you can legitimately ask Edena for new NPCs. Maybe these people recently rose to power. Or some may have been magically imprisoned or travelling forward in time. Slerotin., Last Mage of Power of the Suel Imperium, might be a good Greyhawk NPC to claim. He urged the Suel to goodness and not to fight amongst themselves. (See pg. 64 of the Living Greyhawk Gazetter for details.) He might even know Katha. It would give her someone to talk to who would have a common frame of reference. </p><p> I would like to say again that I appreciate Edena's efforts in running this IR. We all should express our gratitude every know and then to him. </p><p> Tokiwong: Your Iuz posts have been fine examples of role playing and humor.</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: Thank you all for playing. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p> I am making a ruling now, and hope you will pass it along: Kas achieves divine ascension, becoming a demigod. His PL increases to 20.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Sollir Furryfoot</p><p> </p><p> (If it's alright Edena, Hellmaster will contact Athas-I was afraid if I did it recently I would be accused of metagaming, but this was my intent since the time where everyone started getting help from other worlds) </p><p> (If I am metagaming here, please tell me and I will edit this) </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: You are not metagaming. Everyone knows of Athas by now.</p><p></p><p> Images of Hellmaster Phibrizzo appear towards the Dragon Kings, him kneeling in their presence and respectfully greeting them, asking for a few words and waiting their reply before speaking.</p><p>"You are the mighty, the powerful, Dragon Overlords of Athas, gods in your own right, I greet you. My name is Phibrizzo, not one of your people-as I have imagined several stranger people have come before...I use no powers to amplify my presence, your wisdom is too great for it if I tried, I do not mock you, I wish to help you. You are being mislead by these people...your people are being attacked by a thing unfamiliar to you...yet the ones you are allying with are even closer allies to the ones who are attacking you! The world where these fiends come from is Oerth, a world very different from yours, hosting many plagues and pests like them...in Oerth there is much that you people here are deprived from, resources such as water-which is abundant! As well as powerful metals and powers to test your great mental prowess and magicks...As well as what you need to help you against this problem you have been situated in. Oerthblood, seeping from the wounds of our planet I share its secrets to you freely as a sign of friendship. Even more, I invite you to become the allies of my nation, one who has never lifted a hand upon you or is an ally with those who wish to destroy you...Come with me, come into Oerth, raise your armies...we shall set aside a glorious nation for Athas, one which resources hold aplenty...help us defeat our enemies, this red goo which scourges you...this fake ally of yours, these liars, cheaters, charlatans! You are both mighty in strength and intellect and we hold much in common...I leave you with your decision."</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: The Dragon-Kings answer: Hail, Hellmaster Phibrizzo. Words speak much, but actions speak more.</p><p> Will you come and aid us against these Shade?</p><p> One good turn deserves another, and if you will do this we will aid you in your efforts on Oerth. </p><p> </p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p></p><p> Serpenteye</p><p> </p><p> Hello, to you too. </p><p></p><p> It was just a silly joke. But you have to admit that you have a lot in common with Ian Payne. He created the United Commonwealth, you founded the Alliance of Oerth. He was touched by an Angel, you became an Angel. He's generally a good guy, just like you.</p><p> Your style of writing and play also reminds me a lot of his. </p><p> Above all you're both very talented role players, but there's a lot of those in the IR. </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: William's character, Hazen, is very much like Ian Payne - that is why the Angels bequeathed much of their power on him ... they did not make him an Angel, however! (He would have become an NPC if they had done so.)</p><p> And yes, both Reprisal and William are fantastic roleplayers.</p><p> So are you, Serpenteye. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Tokiwong</p><p> </p><p> The Eternal Empire of Iuz... errr Toril </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: ROTFLOL!!</p><p></p><p> Iuz looked at the strange clothes the gentle maidens from the Eternal Empire of Toril were fitting to his small frame. The sea-blue robe was called a kimono, Iuz merely waited as they fitted him with a belt they called an obi and then placed two swords at his side, a daisho it was called… </p><p> Iuz finally looked up to the diplomat from the Eternal Empire, “This is all very interesting…” he looked slightly amused, “and I appreciate the gifts… Xianghyu… they are in a word… lovely…” </p><p> Talindra watched the Torillian with a cautious eye… “It looks becoming Lord Iuz…” </p><p> Xianghyu cleared his throat and spoke up, “Now as to the offer made… Iuz… we have a few stipulations…” </p><p> Iuz looked up his form growing to match the height of the Torillian, “What stipulations…” </p><p> The diplomat nodded, “We demand that you work towards a better world… this Oerth is lifeless… dull… war torn… and…” the diplomat never finished… his innards lying on the floor… as the maidens gasped… </p><p> “I will be the one making the demands here…” he turned to the rest of the Diplomatic retinue…</p><p> “First you ‘demand’ a green world… well I am very much searching for that kind of world…” </p><p> The diplomats cringed in fear, “Wha… what… do you want?” </p><p> “Everything…” he smiles… as Talindra only shook her head slowly, “I want everything… the world… its soul… its flesh… its very fiber of being… I want it all… but for the present I will settle for a little less then the world… a world of my own making… think of it a whole world to exploit… and to make a jewel…” </p><p> One of the diplomats gulped… “A jewel… a world… a…” he closed his mouth as Iuz glared at him… </p><p> “Did I give you permission to speak… mortal… not while I am still in my train of thought… we shall move my Temple City of Chorazin to this world… and thanks to your mastery of magic… which I was easily able to grasp… the transition will hopefully be smooth… it will be the greatest project known to your world… to any world…” </p><p> He opens his palm and in it a spinning globe of a green and blue world forms… “I will create a world… some say it is impossible… the task too monumental… I say it is not great enough… I am the Destroyer, but is not destruction only a facet of life… and is not life a facet of creation,”</p><p> Iuz paused and gazed upon the image in his palm, “Beautiful… and perfect… that is what it is… beautiful and perfect. A world that will be green, free of conflict, a perfect world for the birth of a new order…” </p><p> The diplomats looked on in awe… “Beautiful… can this be done…” </p><p> “We shall attempt the impossible… and we shall succeed,” Iuz replied. </p><p> Talindra smiled to herself… perhaps Iuz had finally found his path… </p><p> OOC: Thanks for the kinds words you guys... anyways for my next trick... once the next turn lurches forward... not sure if this has been addressed but I am reating a Pocket Dimension... then a world to put inside said dimension... using 11th level magic... ooooh I like that...</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: The Torilian Border Guard IMMEDIATELY alerts the daughter of Ian Payne that the Guard of the Eternal Empire allowed Iuz into Realmspace.</p><p> From that point on, Iuz is tracked - he cannot avoid this tracking, this scrying - every second he is in Realmspace.</p><p> And what he has just done is seen by all the officials of the United Commonwealth of Toril, who pass the information along to the Church of Toril, the Church of Mercy, Hope Isle, and the Scro Star League.</p><p> As for the Eternal Empire, they invited Iuz to Toril ... he's their problem now ...</p><p></p><p> It is up to Reprisal, if he plays the UC, how to react to this post, and the threat Iuz represents, having taken over the Eternal Empire of Toril (which occupies all of Kara-Tur and parts of Realmspace.)</p><p> </p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Alyx</p><p> </p><p> Very well Edena. If it is your wish that I take the UC, I will do so willingly. I will rescind the same if you so request.</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: If Reprisal does not claim it, I request you do so - and READ THE ARTICLE IMMEDIATELY ABOVE THIS ONE.</p><p></p><p> However, Reprisal has asked me to put the United Commonwealth on hold for him, and if he claims it, he GETS it - he created it!</p><p> Your claim to the Church of Toril still stands, Alyx. </p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> 'o Skoteinos</p><p></p><p> Edena, I claim the Unseelie.</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: Ok, we have a contested claim. Both 'o Skoteinos and Sollir are claiming Valky's Unseelie. I request the two get together and discuss the matter.</p><p> </p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Tokiwong</p><p> </p><p> OOC: I got the Eternal Empire... weehah... time for two fisted Samurai Kara-Tur styled justice...</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: Yes. It is yours. 'o Skoteinos is not contesting it, but instead contesting Sollir for the Unseelie formerly played by Valkys.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The Forsaken One</p><p></p><p> May I remind everyone that noone is aware of my PC trick and noone is aware of the fact that i can create the dreams with my geestesstorm Artifact </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: That is correct.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Festy_Dog</p><p></p><p> Just posting again that i want the scro star league, they sound kewl, and useful cuz i reckon i could bulk them up a little with my own scro. </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: Unless this is contested, the Scro Star League goes to Festy Dog.</p><p></p><p> Here are the claims so far:</p><p></p><p> Alyx: Church of Toril (or United Commonwealth of Toril if Reprisal does not claim it)</p><p> Dagger: Nations of the Chosen of Mystra</p><p> Creamsteak: Church of Mercy</p><p> Festy Dog: Scro Star League</p><p> 'o Skoteinos: Valky's Unseelie (contested with Sollir)</p><p> Reprisal: United Commonwealth of Toril (this claim CANNOT be contested.)</p><p> Sollir: Valky's Unseelie (contested with 'o Skoteinos.)</p><p> Tokiwong: Eternal Empire of Toril</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> zouron</p><p></p><p> Hey edena a minor Q or two <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p> How goes my secret project? I mean is it accelerated with the use of 11th level magic or remain the same etc?</p><p></p><p> ANSWER: It's going well. But you only just gained 11th level magic - haven't benefitted from it yet.</p><p> Remember, if you use 11th level magic for any purpose other than making an Attack or Defense, and this use lasts longer than one hour per day, you cannot make an Attack or a Defense of greater than Category 3!!</p><p></p><p> 11th level magical research is useless if your opponents blow your mages and clerics to smithereens, thus reducing you back to a Power with only 10th level magic.</p><p> And more useless yet, when they subsequently use their 11th level magic to blow your now defenseless Power to smithereens!</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Zelda Themelin</p><p></p><p> Reprisal, please join us. It would be good to see Toril group in the hands of original player. </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: That is an understatement. And if Forrester were back, we'd have almost the full crew. And THAT would be good.</p><p></p><p> That, and I'd love to see how you respond to Forrester's action. I am not exception any specific politics here, however. </p><p></p><p> ANSWER: Forrester did his best to protect Realmspace. He may have been ruthless, he may have massacred millions of innocent people, and I am sure he could be brought up on war crimes charges - but I am ruling NOW that the United Commonwealth will do no such thing.</p><p> Forrester's actions protected the lives of 100 billion innocent people in Realmspace from some very terrible powers that would have killed or enslaved them all.</p><p> The Torilians are altruists, and they denounce some of Forrester's actions - but they appreciate his defense of their Crystal Sphere.</p><p> That may be hypocritical, but it is the way it is, and unless Forrester is treated as a hero, the United Commonwealth could find itself in a nice little civil war.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 147279, member: 2020"] [b]Answers, rulings, and comments concerning your posts from page 5[/b] Mr. Draco Ok, I'm caught up, but one question: what's an avangion? ANSWER: A butterfly. You turn from human to butterfly as you progress from 20th to 30th level (2nd edition.) A very large butterfly. You gain enormous power, enormous special abilities, and you become a very great power for good and life, on the parched, ravaged world of Athas. To this date, it has never been successfully accomplished, although some Preservers (good mages) have gotten close. Avangions are really an Athian concept - they can exist elsewhere, but the concept - of a butterfly that brings light and good to a world of evil, ruined by Defiling magic, full of hate and fear - is really best suited to Athas. Elsewhere, it has far less meaning - you are just another powerful being. You must be able to throw psionic enchantments to become an Avangion - that is, you must be a mage and psionicist both, and have achieved 20th level in both classes. Of course, with 11th level magic, all of those rules go out the window ... - - - The Forsaken One As far as I know a ultimate good creature of immense power. Native to Athas. ANSWER: Yes. - - - Tokiwong Iuz the spoon king Hope you read that post hehe, I thought it was quite amusing "The Spoon King... hmm what a delicious idea..." Iuz quips... ANSWER: I missed that one. Spoon King, eh? Hmmm ... well, you DID dig out the brains of someone you believed was a traitor with a rusty spoon (Iuz did do this), so I guess you can be annointed Spoon King. OOC: Mr. Draco short answer is that an Avangion is a type of creature good wizards (preservers) ones who do not raavge the land only taking enough may become... it is a magical creature and beyond that i know little... but they are native to Athas ANSWER: I wish to elaborate on this. On Athas, you can be a mage, or you can be a mage that advances at twice the normal rate. This second kind of mage is known as a Defiler, for his magic uses up the lifeforce of the land, killing plants in the local vicinity, rendering the soil sterile. The more powerful the spell, the wider the area of destruction, and the deaths spread to animals, and finally, at 10th level, Defiling Magic kills humans, demihumans, and humanoids. Defilers are the reason Athas is a vast desert, devoid of any standing water (except the Last Sea), where the temperature rockets to 140 Fahrenheit in the shade by day, and drops to 0 Fahrenheit at night (except on the Forest Ridge, where it goes up to only 100 by day, and drops to freezing at night.) And those are the friendly regions. On the tablelands, it's worse. Go south to the Blackened Lands, and it gets far worse yet (and there are legions of sentient, intelligent undead there ... and, since Acererak's Ascendance, guess who they now serve?) - - - Sollir Furryfoot Avangions and the Dragon Kings were once mortals, but through 10th level Magic and Psionics as well as time they ascended to what they are...Avangions are good as opposed to Dragon Kings being normally evil....Melkor you still haven't answered my question...did you even *think* about Athas before we all posted our plans and I posted that I wished to make peace with the Dragon Kings there? Also, I will claim Mina and her Knights (as well as the Dead of Krynn), Hellmaster and Mina have several similarities, I think they would do well together ANSWER: Very well. I will put down that Sollir is claiming Mina and the Knights of Neraka. NOTE TO SOLLIR: Mina and the Knights of Neraka and the Church of Mercy (claimed by Creamsteak) CANNOT AND WILL NOT get along!! Cooperation between them is possible only in total extremis, and neutral relations are not possible - if you have not read Dragons of a Fallen Sun and Dragons of a Lost Star, buy the paperbacks and read them. You won't be disappointed, either by the books, or by Mina. - - - Zelda Themelin Yep, but Dragon Kings got much cooler ascension ritual. Sacrifices and ziggurats (how you write it) and stuff, oh, and they get to look cooler too. Avangion brings to my mind some cross between butterfly and alien (you know, greys). I truly wonder how they are ultimate creatures of good, well, Athas is a weird world. ANSWER: Dragon Metamorphosis is sorta painful ... and it requires you sacrifice thousands of people ... it's not the nicest experience. Avangion Metamorphosis is peaceful, pleasant, and requires no sacrifice of people. It takes longer though - it takes years, and possibly decades. Again, with 11th level magic, those rules go out the window ... (sighs) - - - Mr. Draco Edena, a question: While looking over the 11th level combat rules, i noticed that an attacker can never take any damage (i.e.- loose any of their mages/clerics). Is this intentional? IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ: Correct, Mr. Draco. You never lose any of your mages or clerics when you make an Attack. However, you lose mages and clerics when you are Attacked. How many do you lose? That depends on the strength of the Attack, strength of the Defense, and my dice rolling (there is some luck involved.) - - - Alyx OOC: My claim to power Edena, I would like to claim to 11th level magic of the Church of Toril. To be honest, I had at first considered to remain out of this claiming session, but 11th level magic is looking more and more like a neccessity in the coming ages of darkness. If I get the time, I'll try and offer further justification, out of a personal need for such. ANSWER: You don't need a justification. You are perfectly fit for the Church of Toril. If Reprisal runs the United Commonwealth, he will have a dependable ally at his side. - - - Sollir Furryfoot (article accidentally deleted) ANSWER: Noted, Sollir. I will change your claim to Valky's Unseelie. - - - dagger Which ones are open? The United Commonwealth of Toril is now an open power. The Eternal Empire of Toril is now an open power. The Church of Toril is now an open power. The Church of Mercy is now an open power. The Scro Star League of Toril is now an open power. Mina and her Army are now an open power. ANSWER: Well, as of the MOMENT I am writing this, here are the claims: Alyx: Church of Toril (good) Creamsteak: Church of Mercy (good) Sollir: Mina and the Knights of Neraka (evil) Tokiwong: Eternal Empire of Toril (neutral and evil) ('o Skoteinos may be contesting this claim) Of course, you may contest any of these claims. If Reprisal claims the United Commonwealth of Toril, however, it is automatically his. - - - Reprisal I do believe that Creamsteak wanted to take over the Church of Mercy... Oh yeah, hey everyone! Post Edit: After receiving an e-mail and sending one back, I'm thinking of returning to the fold, of course, I'm somewhat confounded by the entirety of these proceedings, but I should be able to handle it as long as I get some help in the beginning. In any event, I'm going to ask Edena to put a hold on The United Commonwealth of Toril until I can make my decision of wether or not I want to dive into the deep end ... ANSWER: I do not need to say how honored and delighted I am, to hear from you, Reprisal, once more. I most certainly will put the United Commonwealth of Toril on hold, for you. I hope you can play - the 100 billion people of the United Commonwealth are threatened ... enemy nations from abroad have obtained 11th level magic and threaten the UC with it. The Eternal Empire of Toril (Kara-Tur) threatens. The Scro Star League is arrogant now. And worst of all, Reprisal, Realmspace is slowly sliding into Ravenloft. Of the sixth Touches needed to cause that to happen, two have occurred and number three is approaching. The atrocities, mass murder, and flagrant use of the evil substance called Red Goo, has caused the Mists to rise, and to shroud Realmspace in a gloom, through which the sun shines blearily into Toril's green atmosphere. Already, people are changing. They cannot die ... they regenerate or simply continue, mortally injured. But it is not a gift, this immortality. It is a trap. People are taking delight in pain, and no clerics can heal them, or change their mentality back, and Loviatar's cult has flourished, and come out into the open - even the United Commonwealth can do nothing, for it's own soldiers would mutiny. Sick, twisted ideas are coming into people's minds, and altruism and goodwill are fading. And the Church of Shade, long an underground movement on Toril, has arisen in might on Oerth, which it has devastated, and now it is attacking Athas, seeking to destroy that world. And now, with the Change, the Church of Shade may well launch an all out 11th level attack on the United Commonwealth, hoping to destroy your mages and clerics, thus depriving you of any magic above 10th level. If that happens, the Church of Shade, with their 11th level magic versus your 10th level magic, would destroy or enslave your people, and the paradise - everything everyone worked so hard in the 2nd IR to achieve, all the countless millions of lives sacrificed and lost, all the wars, everything - would be undone. Forrester long guarded the UC, and did a good job of protecting it. Although ruthless, his tactics protected Realmspace. But no more. Now, Realmspace lies open to it's enemies, and the Mists of Ravenloft grow deeper and darker, fueled by hatred and fear, atrocities and mass murder, and by the power of the Red Goo (a substance comprised of the souls and spirits of those who fell in battle, their energy expended in that battle, negative emotions, and a great deal of evil magic. The Red Goo dissolves all living things it touches, automatically, unless they are shielded by magic or Oerthblood.) - - - Serpenteye Hey, Mr Payne! Please join us. Your son Archcleric Hazen misses his daddy. ANSWER: LOL. For your information, Reprisal, the Angels - who were protecting Realmspace - have abandoned their posts and moved to stand with Hazen. Why they did this, is not clear. WHY they altered reality so that your enemies could use 11th level magic in YOUR Crystal Sphere freely, NOBODY knows. But all know they are most displeased with everyone, and they apparently wish everyone a chance to learn lessons. Of the 90,000 PL that there were of Angels, only 20,000 PL remains. The rest died fighting the Red Army, a terrible monstrous army that could have destroyed all of Greyspace and Realmspace, and which was brought to life out of the Red Goo by Iuz (Tokiwong) and especially by the Church of Shade (Melkor.) - - - Anabstercorian IC Message to everybody << My friends, my enemies. We have fought together, and we have fought against each other. But we all - ALL of us - Have a common enemy. And that enemy is great. You all know of whom I speak. >> << I speak of Melkor, the Destroyer, the Consumer, the Raper, the Dominator, the Grinder of Souls, the Devourer of Hope, He Who Spawned The Red Army, The Bastard Son Of Oblivion and Despair. >> << You all know that he's going to destroy the world first chance he gets. I recommend we crush him in to a one-dimensional point before he can do the same to us. >> << I recommend we begin a focused attack on the magical assault capabilities of the Shade, and shatter his offensive power immediately. We have no chance of creating a lasting peace and denying the Dark Powers the pleasure of acquiring Oerth otherwise. His presence is too disruptive, his mind too antithetical to harmony, his form too blasphemous to the creed of peace and law for any sort of coexistence with him. >> << I saw we KICK HIS ASS! Who is with me? >> ANSWER: Nice tactic. But it won't work on the people of Luna ... who you buried alive. All several million of them. - - - dagger Im not sure what is claimed so ill claim # 7: The Nations of the Chosen of Mystra I will put down your claim, Dagger. Here are the claims so far, once more: Alyx: Church of Toril (good) Dagger: Nations of the Chosen of Mystra (neutral) Creamsteak: Church of Mercy (good) Sollir: Valky's Unseelie (evil) Tokiwong: Eternal Empire of Oerth (evil) ('o Skoteinos may be contesting this claim.) - - - William Ronald Late night replies Hello, my friends: I just e-mailed Gnomeworks about his computer problems. He seems to have some complex technical headaches. I think a delay of turn to let him fix it, and allow Maudlin and kaboom to return would be a good idea. I have heard from Reprisal. He may return. If he does, here is an idea. Maybe he and Alyx can share the UC of Toril. As Mr. Draco and Anabstercorian (the former Riot Gear) know, Reprisal plays a bit differently from Forrester. I do hope Forrester returns. ANSWER: I hope Forrester returns also. However, Reprisal gets full control of the UC if he returns - that is an absolute. Reprisal created the UC ... although he had help, the UC is truly Reprisal's child. I will need a week or more before I am ready for Turn 7. I have no problem with waiting for GnomeWorks, as long as everyone decides not to quit on me during the interlude! Mr. Draco, you did have a question. The Oerth Alliance would have to consider any applications for membership. We do stand for religious tolerance and the rights of the individual. As President, I can call for a vote. We may even consider giving a potential member time to prove his true intentions. (Your faction has had a few changes in direction, so some people may want to figure out your true intentions.) Serpenteye -- The quote about Ian Payne was funny. Hazen is older than Ian Payne would be. He was already old during the Greyhawk Wars, 40 years before this IR. Edena, I agree with you about the family feeling here in the IR. I may oppose some people here, but I do wish them well in life. ANSWER: I like rping with you guys (and you, Zelda. You are our only female player.) I like you all. It has been great rping with you. Hazen greets any representatives of the Veiled Society as honored guests, and answers their questions. He will not jeopardize the security of the Oerth Alliance in doing so, however. ANSWER: The Veiled Alliance is looking for aid and help, and knowledge, to overcome the Defilers and to overcome the Shade who are invading their world. Ho Skoteinos, Hazen and Kalanyr already restored your dead NPCs. You did commit your forces to help with the battle in Veluna, so I have restored your NPCs. Allies should be rewarded. Hazen would like to have them attend one of his lectures on ethics. (Ho, some of your NPCs are evil. Hazen is being very nice to them, and suggesting they reform themselves. ) Zelda, if you wish, the Kevellond League will restore your dead NPCs. However, I think you can legitimately ask Edena for new NPCs. Maybe these people recently rose to power. Or some may have been magically imprisoned or travelling forward in time. Slerotin., Last Mage of Power of the Suel Imperium, might be a good Greyhawk NPC to claim. He urged the Suel to goodness and not to fight amongst themselves. (See pg. 64 of the Living Greyhawk Gazetter for details.) He might even know Katha. It would give her someone to talk to who would have a common frame of reference. I would like to say again that I appreciate Edena's efforts in running this IR. We all should express our gratitude every know and then to him. Tokiwong: Your Iuz posts have been fine examples of role playing and humor. ANSWER: Thank you all for playing. :) I am making a ruling now, and hope you will pass it along: Kas achieves divine ascension, becoming a demigod. His PL increases to 20. - - - Sollir Furryfoot (If it's alright Edena, Hellmaster will contact Athas-I was afraid if I did it recently I would be accused of metagaming, but this was my intent since the time where everyone started getting help from other worlds) (If I am metagaming here, please tell me and I will edit this) ANSWER: You are not metagaming. Everyone knows of Athas by now. Images of Hellmaster Phibrizzo appear towards the Dragon Kings, him kneeling in their presence and respectfully greeting them, asking for a few words and waiting their reply before speaking. "You are the mighty, the powerful, Dragon Overlords of Athas, gods in your own right, I greet you. My name is Phibrizzo, not one of your people-as I have imagined several stranger people have come before...I use no powers to amplify my presence, your wisdom is too great for it if I tried, I do not mock you, I wish to help you. You are being mislead by these people...your people are being attacked by a thing unfamiliar to you...yet the ones you are allying with are even closer allies to the ones who are attacking you! The world where these fiends come from is Oerth, a world very different from yours, hosting many plagues and pests like them...in Oerth there is much that you people here are deprived from, resources such as water-which is abundant! As well as powerful metals and powers to test your great mental prowess and magicks...As well as what you need to help you against this problem you have been situated in. Oerthblood, seeping from the wounds of our planet I share its secrets to you freely as a sign of friendship. Even more, I invite you to become the allies of my nation, one who has never lifted a hand upon you or is an ally with those who wish to destroy you...Come with me, come into Oerth, raise your armies...we shall set aside a glorious nation for Athas, one which resources hold aplenty...help us defeat our enemies, this red goo which scourges you...this fake ally of yours, these liars, cheaters, charlatans! You are both mighty in strength and intellect and we hold much in common...I leave you with your decision." ANSWER: The Dragon-Kings answer: Hail, Hellmaster Phibrizzo. Words speak much, but actions speak more. Will you come and aid us against these Shade? One good turn deserves another, and if you will do this we will aid you in your efforts on Oerth. - - - Serpenteye Hello, to you too. It was just a silly joke. But you have to admit that you have a lot in common with Ian Payne. He created the United Commonwealth, you founded the Alliance of Oerth. He was touched by an Angel, you became an Angel. He's generally a good guy, just like you. Your style of writing and play also reminds me a lot of his. Above all you're both very talented role players, but there's a lot of those in the IR. ANSWER: William's character, Hazen, is very much like Ian Payne - that is why the Angels bequeathed much of their power on him ... they did not make him an Angel, however! (He would have become an NPC if they had done so.) And yes, both Reprisal and William are fantastic roleplayers. So are you, Serpenteye. :) - - - Tokiwong The Eternal Empire of Iuz... errr Toril ANSWER: ROTFLOL!! Iuz looked at the strange clothes the gentle maidens from the Eternal Empire of Toril were fitting to his small frame. The sea-blue robe was called a kimono, Iuz merely waited as they fitted him with a belt they called an obi and then placed two swords at his side, a daisho it was called… Iuz finally looked up to the diplomat from the Eternal Empire, “This is all very interesting…” he looked slightly amused, “and I appreciate the gifts… Xianghyu… they are in a word… lovely…” Talindra watched the Torillian with a cautious eye… “It looks becoming Lord Iuz…” Xianghyu cleared his throat and spoke up, “Now as to the offer made… Iuz… we have a few stipulations…” Iuz looked up his form growing to match the height of the Torillian, “What stipulations…” The diplomat nodded, “We demand that you work towards a better world… this Oerth is lifeless… dull… war torn… and…” the diplomat never finished… his innards lying on the floor… as the maidens gasped… “I will be the one making the demands here…” he turned to the rest of the Diplomatic retinue… “First you ‘demand’ a green world… well I am very much searching for that kind of world…” The diplomats cringed in fear, “Wha… what… do you want?” “Everything…” he smiles… as Talindra only shook her head slowly, “I want everything… the world… its soul… its flesh… its very fiber of being… I want it all… but for the present I will settle for a little less then the world… a world of my own making… think of it a whole world to exploit… and to make a jewel…” One of the diplomats gulped… “A jewel… a world… a…” he closed his mouth as Iuz glared at him… “Did I give you permission to speak… mortal… not while I am still in my train of thought… we shall move my Temple City of Chorazin to this world… and thanks to your mastery of magic… which I was easily able to grasp… the transition will hopefully be smooth… it will be the greatest project known to your world… to any world…” He opens his palm and in it a spinning globe of a green and blue world forms… “I will create a world… some say it is impossible… the task too monumental… I say it is not great enough… I am the Destroyer, but is not destruction only a facet of life… and is not life a facet of creation,” Iuz paused and gazed upon the image in his palm, “Beautiful… and perfect… that is what it is… beautiful and perfect. A world that will be green, free of conflict, a perfect world for the birth of a new order…” The diplomats looked on in awe… “Beautiful… can this be done…” “We shall attempt the impossible… and we shall succeed,” Iuz replied. Talindra smiled to herself… perhaps Iuz had finally found his path… OOC: Thanks for the kinds words you guys... anyways for my next trick... once the next turn lurches forward... not sure if this has been addressed but I am reating a Pocket Dimension... then a world to put inside said dimension... using 11th level magic... ooooh I like that... ANSWER: The Torilian Border Guard IMMEDIATELY alerts the daughter of Ian Payne that the Guard of the Eternal Empire allowed Iuz into Realmspace. From that point on, Iuz is tracked - he cannot avoid this tracking, this scrying - every second he is in Realmspace. And what he has just done is seen by all the officials of the United Commonwealth of Toril, who pass the information along to the Church of Toril, the Church of Mercy, Hope Isle, and the Scro Star League. As for the Eternal Empire, they invited Iuz to Toril ... he's their problem now ... It is up to Reprisal, if he plays the UC, how to react to this post, and the threat Iuz represents, having taken over the Eternal Empire of Toril (which occupies all of Kara-Tur and parts of Realmspace.) - - - Alyx Very well Edena. If it is your wish that I take the UC, I will do so willingly. I will rescind the same if you so request. ANSWER: If Reprisal does not claim it, I request you do so - and READ THE ARTICLE IMMEDIATELY ABOVE THIS ONE. However, Reprisal has asked me to put the United Commonwealth on hold for him, and if he claims it, he GETS it - he created it! Your claim to the Church of Toril still stands, Alyx. - - - - - - 'o Skoteinos Edena, I claim the Unseelie. ANSWER: Ok, we have a contested claim. Both 'o Skoteinos and Sollir are claiming Valky's Unseelie. I request the two get together and discuss the matter. - - - Tokiwong OOC: I got the Eternal Empire... weehah... time for two fisted Samurai Kara-Tur styled justice... ANSWER: Yes. It is yours. 'o Skoteinos is not contesting it, but instead contesting Sollir for the Unseelie formerly played by Valkys. - - - The Forsaken One May I remind everyone that noone is aware of my PC trick and noone is aware of the fact that i can create the dreams with my geestesstorm Artifact ANSWER: That is correct. - - - Festy_Dog Just posting again that i want the scro star league, they sound kewl, and useful cuz i reckon i could bulk them up a little with my own scro. ANSWER: Unless this is contested, the Scro Star League goes to Festy Dog. Here are the claims so far: Alyx: Church of Toril (or United Commonwealth of Toril if Reprisal does not claim it) Dagger: Nations of the Chosen of Mystra Creamsteak: Church of Mercy Festy Dog: Scro Star League 'o Skoteinos: Valky's Unseelie (contested with Sollir) Reprisal: United Commonwealth of Toril (this claim CANNOT be contested.) Sollir: Valky's Unseelie (contested with 'o Skoteinos.) Tokiwong: Eternal Empire of Toril - - - zouron Hey edena a minor Q or two :-) How goes my secret project? I mean is it accelerated with the use of 11th level magic or remain the same etc? ANSWER: It's going well. But you only just gained 11th level magic - haven't benefitted from it yet. Remember, if you use 11th level magic for any purpose other than making an Attack or Defense, and this use lasts longer than one hour per day, you cannot make an Attack or a Defense of greater than Category 3!! 11th level magical research is useless if your opponents blow your mages and clerics to smithereens, thus reducing you back to a Power with only 10th level magic. And more useless yet, when they subsequently use their 11th level magic to blow your now defenseless Power to smithereens! - - - Zelda Themelin Reprisal, please join us. It would be good to see Toril group in the hands of original player. ANSWER: That is an understatement. And if Forrester were back, we'd have almost the full crew. And THAT would be good. That, and I'd love to see how you respond to Forrester's action. I am not exception any specific politics here, however. ANSWER: Forrester did his best to protect Realmspace. He may have been ruthless, he may have massacred millions of innocent people, and I am sure he could be brought up on war crimes charges - but I am ruling NOW that the United Commonwealth will do no such thing. Forrester's actions protected the lives of 100 billion innocent people in Realmspace from some very terrible powers that would have killed or enslaved them all. The Torilians are altruists, and they denounce some of Forrester's actions - but they appreciate his defense of their Crystal Sphere. That may be hypocritical, but it is the way it is, and unless Forrester is treated as a hero, the United Commonwealth could find itself in a nice little civil war. [/QUOTE]
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