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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1302678" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p><strong>(Post 9) Thread One of the First IR</strong></p><p></p><p>Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:29 PM </p><p></p><p> It is not possible for any side to further increase their power.</p><p> Everyone is maxed out.</p><p></p><p> The elves/angels/demi-humans, at 20.</p><p> The Technomancer Confederation, at 18.</p><p> The Illithid, at 13 (they are slowly growing)</p><p> No other force can achieve anything beyond Power Level 7.</p><p></p><p> The peace conference is on.</p><p></p><p> The Technomancy has offered peace. Offered to expel the Defilers and the Devils. (Apparently the</p><p> humanoids do not like this ...)</p><p></p><p> The illithid have made 2 separate offers.</p><p></p><p> The elves have not spoken yet.</p><p></p><p> Super technology (starships, etc.) are NOT available to any side in this scenario.</p><p> The most advanced technology currently available resides with the Technomancy.</p><p></p><p> It would appear Burned Man and his army of Athasians wish to throw a serious monkey wrench into the</p><p> peace process ...</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> The Burned Man</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:33 PM </p><p></p><p> Worship me, humanoid and I will make you strong... </p><p></p><p> stronger than you could possibly imagine...</p><p></p><p> *the Psionatrix can suppress all psionic activity across the world*</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:33 PM </p><p></p><p> Yeah, Riot Gear, saying you have "Starcraft" tech doesn't make it so. Else this entire thread would be pretty</p><p> damn pointless. </p><p></p><p> Second, I'm pretty sure someone else controls the Planewalkers. He just hasn't posted yet. </p><p></p><p> Third -- Phasmus -- what, PRECISELY, would you do to end the war? Lay waste to our enemies? If that is the</p><p> case, perhaps we can make a deal. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p></p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:36 PM </p><p></p><p> I repeat, nobody has technology beyond WW1 levels.</p><p> And only the Technomancy has that.</p><p> Ignore ANY post that says otherwise.</p><p></p><p> Enkhidu</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:37 PM </p><p></p><p> A peace conference?</p><p></p><p> Now that is something a curmudgeon like me can agree on - to that end, I invite the conferences</p><p> themselves to be held in my mountain abode, and offer my services as head of arbitration. In return, I ask</p><p> only for protection of my person while among these powerful personages. I will need to know who shows up</p><p> to know how many milk, cookies, and brains to have available.</p><p></p><p> Enkhidu</p><p></p><p> buzzard</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:38 PM </p><p></p><p> We are willing to accept the offer of the Illithids, and will try to convince our humanoid allies to go along.</p><p> That looks like it will take some work however. </p><p></p><p> We just want the war to end. If bringing the Illithid to the table is needed for this, so be it. </p><p></p><p> As I said before. We want a permanent ceasefire with present boundaries. Nothing more or less. </p><p></p><p> To our humanoid allies: We've been very happy with your support, and I believe we have aided you fairly in</p><p> turn. However we wish to be done with this war. If you wish to pursue agressive acts, we will only support you</p><p> in a defensive manner. We are your allies, and will continue to support you in the future. We just want the</p><p> war to end, even if we have to deal with the squidthings. </p><p></p><p> Buzzard</p><p></p><p> Reprisal</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:39 PM </p><p></p><p> (( All right, I'll reply to the Psionics, but I doubt that Edena will allow these Jedi to exist. This is a D&D thing,</p><p> not a d20 thing...))</p><p></p><p> If the Psionic forces wish to come to the table they may, we will not stop them. The Technocratic Coalition</p><p> will not stand in their way.</p><p></p><p> ((Yay, I just read that there are no Jedi or Protoss level things, thanks Edena. I'd argue that Draco could still</p><p> have a grouping of Psionics though, his heart looks to be in the right place.))</p><p></p><p> Rep.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Reprisal (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> The Burned Man</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:40 PM </p><p></p><p> Do not listen to, Phasmous, encourage your subject to worship me and I will hand the Underdark to you....</p><p></p><p> The Illithid are nothing soon...</p><p></p><p> Give me worshippers...</p><p></p><p> Phasmus</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:40 PM </p><p></p><p> Yes, Mr. Forrester, that is the idea.</p><p></p><p> Burned Man, we take this opportunity to make it very clear to you and everyone else on Toril that any</p><p> disruption in psionic activity will release the phaerimm... resulting in the further general destruction of the</p><p> world.</p><p></p><p> ...</p><p></p><p></p><p> That aside, how come we've been trying to figure out how to turn off the sun since before the blasted war</p><p> began with no success, but you just mention 'research' a couple times and can now deactivate psionics at</p><p> the drop of a hat?!</p><p> It just isn't fair!</p><p></p><p></p><p> Regards,</p><p></p><p> Phasmus & Co.</p><p></p><p> "Brains: The other, other, other white meat."</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:41 PM </p><p></p><p> Edena -- is this "Psionatrix" the babblings of an undead dragon's mind, or perhaps a real artifact? </p><p></p><p> And, defilers . . . the Illithid control many artifacts. They might well be able to cancel out this Psionatrix, and</p><p> then where would you be?</p><p></p><p> Perhaps the uneasy peace we now have is best . . . and we'll let the arms race decide who wins. With Defiler</p><p> Magic combined with Technology, combined with a general lack of care for despoiling the environment, how</p><p> can we not win against the gnomes and dwarves and elves? </p><p></p><p> Edena -- Do the elves help with the gnomes/dwarves technology expansion, or, given their past behavior, do</p><p> they vigorously oppose it (or at least do nothing)? In any case, I have a hard time believing that they will</p><p> keep up with us if they insist that all new technology must keep the environment pure and unblemished.</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Evil will Win because Good is Stupid.</p><p></p><p></p><p> The Burned Man</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:43 PM </p><p></p><p> *The Psionatrix is an athasian artifact*</p><p></p><p> *The research is something else*</p><p></p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:43 PM </p><p></p><p> We the Gith and Scro Alliance release all demons in our sevice, but retain the service of our elementals(we</p><p> had them several pages back)...stop....</p><p></p><p> We locate a planet for the Athasian warriors in realm space. We welcome their teachings and maybe worship</p><p> if an act overwhelming power is preformed and is to our benifit....stop...</p><p></p><p> We will share magical knowlege and offer several planets rich in life...stop</p><p></p><p> We would like to accept the free psions leauge under Mr. Draco's proposal. We will exstablish an order</p><p> similar to that of Athas...stop</p><p></p><p> We have completed the repair of the psionatrix to control use of psionic power..stop</p><p></p><p> We begin studing the use of energy conduits and obsidian to power mages here without defiling...stop...</p><p></p><p> The Scro, githyanki, githzerial, and thri-keen want the Elves out of wildspace period...stop....</p><p></p><p> We advance spelljaming technology. We create our own helms, use rockets, develop armor plating, find</p><p> better fuel mixtures, develop cloaking technology(astral/etheral), Create non-helm nessicary spelljammers,</p><p> radar and its magical equivalant is developed...stop...</p><p></p><p> We move to defensive stance, except for removing demons, in ground war and shift our focas to taking</p><p> Wildspace...stop..</p><p></p><p> The Scro now have defilers...stop</p><p></p><p> We increase our knowlege of command and control technologies...stop... </p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Alzem Dalcama</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:44 PM </p><p></p><p> The forces of the angles send a Solar to the bargining table "We have heard of your peace efforts and will</p><p> offer the hand of peace to any who so desire it. Also we will give those who wish peace the right to come to</p><p> our haven to hold your meeting, but know this anyone who does violence there will have that violance visited</p><p> upon himself many times over."</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> Cleric of St. Cuthbert "I?m about to drop the hammer, and dispense some indiscriminate justice!"</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:46 PM </p><p></p><p> Buzzard, Reprisal: The Illithid have made us an offer. Our strength is enough that should they turn against</p><p> us, they would likely perish -- at the very least, we would both be severely wounded.</p><p></p><p> Perhaps the time has come to rid ourselves of the Elven Menace (They STARTED IT!) once and for all. After</p><p> that . . . peace, and technological expansion. </p><p></p><p> What do you say? </p><p></p><p> The Devils will be with us.</p><p> I believe the Gith will be with us.</p><p> The Dragons/Sahaugin/other races will be with us.</p><p> The Defilers will be with us (if we can find them, heh.)</p><p> Draco's forces will be with us. </p><p></p><p> We can end this, once and for all. And then, PEACE. </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Peacemaker</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Reprisal</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:46 PM </p><p></p><p> To the Solars:</p><p></p><p> I was just about to say the same thing, who else but the Solars could serve as arbiters and mediators any</p><p> better?</p><p></p><p> The Technocracy supports the movement of the Conference to the Solar's Haven Island.</p><p></p><p> To Forrester and the Humanoids:</p><p></p><p> We will not move against an enemy that has kept to the cease-fire agreement. The Elves are no longer a</p><p> concern of the Technocracy insofar as they recognze the fact that we are able to do what we wish on OUR</p><p> soil. The elves do not have jurisdiction over us, only the Gods and our governments have that.</p><p></p><p> The days of strategic military alliances are over, Forrester, we either move on, or the world is destroyed. I</p><p> understand your hatred for the elves, we once felt that strongly, but they have been harmed greatly, mostly</p><p> at your expense. As a result, any further warring will result in the deaths of your people as you demand to</p><p> be on the front lines...</p><p></p><p> I implore you to take a seat at the Conference table by our side, for you are allies, economically and</p><p> militarily. The world owes you a debt (in punishing the elves for their arrogance), this is for sure, and we will</p><p> make sure that you humanoids get your own homelands.</p><p></p><p> ((So, what do we call this? The Treat of Versailles? Heh heh.))</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Reprisal (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Riot Gear</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:54 PM </p><p></p><p> About my Starcraft tech comment - I misinterpreted Phasmus's comments about Techo-magi-psi-tech. It</p><p> sounded pretty ass kicking to me.</p><p></p><p> Anyway, I continue to reach a peace accord with the Technomancy and am working my little purple butt off</p><p> trying to convince the Humanoids to NOT raze the elves again...</p><p></p><p> Oh, and, um, I don't tell them it was me who started the Illithid offensive against them. Kay?</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> Grap a mop, there's going to be blood on the ceiling!!</p><p> -My character.</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:56 PM </p><p></p><p> Edena -- I gather we are power level 18 right now, w/the devils, sahaugin, evil dragons, gith, defilers, million</p><p> of well-armed humanoids, many factories, and, of course, the old Technomancy. </p><p></p><p> What would our power level be without the technomancy? I understand it would (somewhat) slow down</p><p> technomagical advancement if we did not have their aid . . . but currently, what would our power level look</p><p> like? (I can't believe it would be less than 16, given that we have our own factories and such now. We're</p><p> using the technomancy more for help with technomagical development than supplies.) </p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:58 PM </p><p></p><p> Hey, Nok already had that dang blasted psionatrix. Heck, He even helped destroy it with the Water Hammer</p><p> We created a new one from the shards we had. Did you have shards too? </p><p></p><p> Also, you can leave Athas by planeswalking but getting through the black is almost as hard as leaving</p><p> "Ravensloft". I think they do have access to the elemental planes though. You can also leave athas by</p><p> spelljammer but Githyanki control that crystal sphere.</p><p></p><p> Nok</p><p> "who is the master"</p><p> "ShoNuff" </p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:08 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> Forrester, if the Technomancy abandoned all it's technology, it would fall by about 2 Power levels, to level</p><p> 16.</p><p></p><p> Enkhidu's place was picked for the Peace Conference </p><p></p><p> Currently, the Angels, the Technomancy, the Githyanki/Githzerai, the Scro, and the Illithid are currently</p><p> sitting at the table.</p><p> As far as I know, the Elven Alliance, the Humanoids, the Faerie Folk, the Fiends, and the Athasians, are not.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:13 PM </p><p></p><p> All of the rifles and bombs and ships and airplanes (all magically-enhanced) are increasing our power level</p><p> by only two?!</p><p></p><p> That seems bizarre -- but that wasn't actually my question. I wasn't asking what would happen if we all gave</p><p> up the technology, I was wondering what the power level be if the total forces engaged in an attack</p><p> WITHOUT the technomancy -- given that the humanoids are, to a large degree, technomancers themselves</p><p> at this point. (Our kobolds are finally getting respect!!)</p><p></p><p></p><p> This topic is 16 pages</p><p> long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 </p><p></p><p> All times are Central Time (US)</p><p> This is an ARCHIVED topic. You may not reply to it!</p><p> Hop to: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Contact Us | D&D 3rd Edition News </p><p></p><p></p><p> Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47b</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Note: This is an archived topic. It is read-only.</p><p> D&D 3rd Edition News Board </p><p> Other Archived Stuff </p><p> What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? (Page 14) </p><p></p><p> UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! </p><p></p><p> profile | register | preferences | faq | search </p><p></p><p></p><p> This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 </p><p> This topic was originally posted in this forum: General RPG Discussion</p><p></p><p> Author </p><p> Topic: What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? </p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:15 PM </p><p></p><p> The humanoids will sit at the table -- and I believe that given our contract with the devils, I can also speak</p><p> for them, perhaps. I at least have some influence with them. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker</p><p> Making sure no Huge Bombs go off at the Conference (maybe I'll send a clone)</p><p></p><p></p><p> Edit: I await an answer from Riot Gear/Phasmus. Do they offer to help us wipe out the elves, or are these</p><p> mealy-mouthed squids pretending that all they want is "peace". </p><p></p><p> And have we heard from the Dragon-Lords? </p><p></p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:16 PM </p><p></p><p> I do not understand your question, Forrester. My regrets.</p><p> Can you rephrase it?</p><p> (I'm tired. I've had to respond with over 50 posts to this Thread.)</p><p></p><p> Reprisal</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:18 PM </p><p></p><p> I'm hoping that Forrester is simply seeing what kind of power his military force would have if he chose to</p><p> attack the Elves. If he were to turn around and attack us, well, that would be somewhat terrible...</p><p></p><p> We are still a force for your liberty Humanoids, but only if you put down our articles of war and come to the</p><p> table. As soon as we officially gain a homeland or homelands for you above ground, then you may do as</p><p> you please.</p><p></p><p> Come to the table, Forrester, your people are dying by the thousands each battle. Your attrition tactics work,</p><p> but for how long? If you attack the elves, you will drag their allies in, and their allies and their allies. You will</p><p> also try to drag us into it, and we tire of the barricades, we wish only to advance our civilization beyond</p><p> warfare.</p><p></p><p> (Post Edit)</p><p></p><p> This is getting really interesting, I love it. In any event, the Technocratic Coalition applauds the arrival of the</p><p> Humanoid forces. We make sure that our allies will be spoken to and listened to... We'll get you homelands</p><p> yet...</p><p></p><p> Rep.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Reprisal (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:21 PM </p><p></p><p> If I understand the question correctly ...</p><p></p><p> Forrester is asking me what Power Level the humanoids would have, if they went it alone.</p><p></p><p> The answer: Power Level 10</p><p></p><p> Prior to their technological enhancement, it would have been Power Level 5.</p><p></p><p> If the devils side (and they WILL) with Forrester, that jumps to Power Level 17.</p><p></p><p> If the Athasians side with Forrester, that jumps to Power Level 20.</p><p></p><p> I have spoken.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Enkhidu</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:22 PM </p><p></p><p> No need to worry, sonny...</p><p></p><p> The conference will be peaceable - after all I've had quite some time to make create a complicated system</p><p> of wards, anti-magic shells, "inert" fields (which rob explosives of their "oomph"), and anti-psionics shells.</p><p></p><p> After all I knew the day would come when something like this was necessary, and I've had YEARS to</p><p> prepare...</p><p></p><p> Enkhidu</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:25 PM </p><p></p><p> Reprisal is correct. </p><p></p><p> Wow, Edena, this really has to be hard on you . But this is something you'll be able to talk to your kids</p><p> about .</p><p></p><p> (Well, maybe not THAT good, but this thread will no doubt go down in history on Eric's boards.)</p><p></p><p> And the rest of this post is moot, because you just answered me! Thanks much.</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Left-handed</p><p> Hummingbird</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:26 PM </p><p></p><p> What on Earth is going on?</p><p></p><p> I'll never just skip to page 13 of any thread again! </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:27 PM </p><p></p><p> If, Forrester, you move against the enemy without your technology, you will lose 5 levels of power, as I</p><p> indicated just above.</p><p></p><p> You will start at Power Level 5.</p><p> The devils will back you up, and you will jump to Power Level 12.</p><p> If the Athasians then join you, you will jump to Power Level 15.</p><p> If Zouron were then to join you, you'd jump to Power Level 17.</p><p></p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:28 PM </p><p></p><p> We of the Scro alliance side with the humanoids.</p><p></p><p> We were once a great people until the elven fleets sent us to the dark ages. We will not allow that to</p><p> happen again. </p><p></p><p> We want control of wildspace or a permanent nonaggression pact with the elven fleets will come to the table</p><p> only if the humanoids agree too.</p><p></p><p> Do not under estamate our power. We control the witchlight marauders, the psionatrix, We have the largest</p><p> spelljamming fleet, and hundreds of planets worth of resources. Fear us....We are not to be taken lightly </p><p> We are humaniods, we are many, you are few. </p><p> Nok</p><p> "who is the master"</p><p> "ShoNuff" </p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:32 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> Forrester, you just got a boost.</p><p></p><p> You now start at Power Level 7.</p><p> The devils back you, putting you at 14.</p><p> The scro are backing you, putting you at 16.</p><p></p><p> Furthermore, without you the Technomancy weakens to Power Level 15.</p><p> You could take them on, and win.</p><p></p><p> The elves/angels/demi-humans/faerie still outgun you, though, with their 20.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:33 PM </p><p></p><p> We would never move without our technology -- you answered my question the first time, Edena. Thanks</p><p> much. (EDIT: Can you add 5 to each of the numbers in the post previous to this?)</p><p></p><p> Hey, Zouron! Feel like pushing our force up to 23? 24 or 25 with the Technomancy. Even better if we get the</p><p> Athasians. Hmmm. </p><p></p><p> Ah, well. We will cooperate FULLY with our friends the technomancers, FOR NOW. And that means a full</p><p> wartime R&D effort -- got it, Reprisal? (Edena -- we will continue to try to work Defiler Magic w/Technology in</p><p> some out-of-the-way place. Perhaps bombs that activate defiler-magic-powered explosions when they hit.</p><p> The defiling magic would hurt the local environment, and the explosion finishes the job.</p><p></p><p> Defiling Magic + Technology = WOOHOO! (We will not fill our Technomancer friends in on this research, of</p><p> course. We don't know that they'd understand . . . )</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Reprisal</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:37 PM </p><p></p><p> I vote that we stop all posting until someone representing the Elves and their allies voice their opinion. I</p><p> want to see where the Technocracy stands with everyone. Remember, we're still in a cease-fire.</p><p></p><p> I'd also like to know if the Humanoids will only stop when the elves are eradicated, or that they'd stop when</p><p> the elves formally surrender. That will make a lot of the difference.</p><p></p><p> So, as a result, I will stop posting until Blood Jester or whomever catches up. I'd advise any Technocratic</p><p> posters to do so also...</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:38 PM </p><p></p><p> Ok.</p><p> The following powers are sitting at the Peace Conference at Enkhidu's house:</p><p></p><p> The Angels</p><p> The Technomancer Confederation (one of the big three)</p><p> The Humanoids</p><p> The Illithid (one of the big three)</p><p> The Githyanki and Githzerai</p><p></p><p> The following powers are NOT sitting at the table:</p><p></p><p> The Elven Alliance (one of the big three)</p><p> The Faerie Folk (part of the big three)</p><p> The Fiends</p><p> Bran's Druids</p><p> Zouron's Undead</p><p> The Athasians</p><p> The Scro</p><p></p><p> (If I missed anyone, just state whether you're there or not)</p><p></p><p> You know, someone in another Thread a while back said nobody would ever even dream of negotiating with</p><p> the illithid.</p><p> How things change. </p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:39 PM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1302678, member: 2020"] [b](Post 9) Thread One of the First IR[/b] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 04:29 PM It is not possible for any side to further increase their power. Everyone is maxed out. The elves/angels/demi-humans, at 20. The Technomancer Confederation, at 18. The Illithid, at 13 (they are slowly growing) No other force can achieve anything beyond Power Level 7. The peace conference is on. The Technomancy has offered peace. Offered to expel the Defilers and the Devils. (Apparently the humanoids do not like this ...) The illithid have made 2 separate offers. The elves have not spoken yet. Super technology (starships, etc.) are NOT available to any side in this scenario. The most advanced technology currently available resides with the Technomancy. It would appear Burned Man and his army of Athasians wish to throw a serious monkey wrench into the peace process ... [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] The Burned Man Member posted 04-10-2001 04:33 PM Worship me, humanoid and I will make you strong... stronger than you could possibly imagine... *the Psionatrix can suppress all psionic activity across the world* Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 04:33 PM Yeah, Riot Gear, saying you have "Starcraft" tech doesn't make it so. Else this entire thread would be pretty damn pointless. Second, I'm pretty sure someone else controls the Planewalkers. He just hasn't posted yet. Third -- Phasmus -- what, PRECISELY, would you do to end the war? Lay waste to our enemies? If that is the case, perhaps we can make a deal. Forrester Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 04:36 PM I repeat, nobody has technology beyond WW1 levels. And only the Technomancy has that. Ignore ANY post that says otherwise. Enkhidu Member posted 04-10-2001 04:37 PM A peace conference? Now that is something a curmudgeon like me can agree on - to that end, I invite the conferences themselves to be held in my mountain abode, and offer my services as head of arbitration. In return, I ask only for protection of my person while among these powerful personages. I will need to know who shows up to know how many milk, cookies, and brains to have available. Enkhidu buzzard Member posted 04-10-2001 04:38 PM We are willing to accept the offer of the Illithids, and will try to convince our humanoid allies to go along. That looks like it will take some work however. We just want the war to end. If bringing the Illithid to the table is needed for this, so be it. As I said before. We want a permanent ceasefire with present boundaries. Nothing more or less. To our humanoid allies: We've been very happy with your support, and I believe we have aided you fairly in turn. However we wish to be done with this war. If you wish to pursue agressive acts, we will only support you in a defensive manner. We are your allies, and will continue to support you in the future. We just want the war to end, even if we have to deal with the squidthings. Buzzard Reprisal Member posted 04-10-2001 04:39 PM (( All right, I'll reply to the Psionics, but I doubt that Edena will allow these Jedi to exist. This is a D&D thing, not a d20 thing...)) If the Psionic forces wish to come to the table they may, we will not stop them. The Technocratic Coalition will not stand in their way. ((Yay, I just read that there are no Jedi or Protoss level things, thanks Edena. I'd argue that Draco could still have a grouping of Psionics though, his heart looks to be in the right place.)) Rep. ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus [This message has been edited by Reprisal (edited 04-10-2001).] The Burned Man Member posted 04-10-2001 04:40 PM Do not listen to, Phasmous, encourage your subject to worship me and I will hand the Underdark to you.... The Illithid are nothing soon... Give me worshippers... Phasmus Member posted 04-10-2001 04:40 PM Yes, Mr. Forrester, that is the idea. Burned Man, we take this opportunity to make it very clear to you and everyone else on Toril that any disruption in psionic activity will release the phaerimm... resulting in the further general destruction of the world. ... That aside, how come we've been trying to figure out how to turn off the sun since before the blasted war began with no success, but you just mention 'research' a couple times and can now deactivate psionics at the drop of a hat?! It just isn't fair! Regards, Phasmus & Co. "Brains: The other, other, other white meat." Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 04:41 PM Edena -- is this "Psionatrix" the babblings of an undead dragon's mind, or perhaps a real artifact? And, defilers . . . the Illithid control many artifacts. They might well be able to cancel out this Psionatrix, and then where would you be? Perhaps the uneasy peace we now have is best . . . and we'll let the arms race decide who wins. With Defiler Magic combined with Technology, combined with a general lack of care for despoiling the environment, how can we not win against the gnomes and dwarves and elves? Edena -- Do the elves help with the gnomes/dwarves technology expansion, or, given their past behavior, do they vigorously oppose it (or at least do nothing)? In any case, I have a hard time believing that they will keep up with us if they insist that all new technology must keep the environment pure and unblemished. Forrester Evil will Win because Good is Stupid. The Burned Man Member posted 04-10-2001 04:43 PM *The Psionatrix is an athasian artifact* *The research is something else* Gruffmug Member posted 04-10-2001 04:43 PM We the Gith and Scro Alliance release all demons in our sevice, but retain the service of our elementals(we had them several pages back)...stop.... We locate a planet for the Athasian warriors in realm space. We welcome their teachings and maybe worship if an act overwhelming power is preformed and is to our benifit....stop... We will share magical knowlege and offer several planets rich in life...stop We would like to accept the free psions leauge under Mr. Draco's proposal. We will exstablish an order similar to that of Athas...stop We have completed the repair of the psionatrix to control use of psionic power..stop We begin studing the use of energy conduits and obsidian to power mages here without defiling...stop... The Scro, githyanki, githzerial, and thri-keen want the Elves out of wildspace period...stop.... We advance spelljaming technology. We create our own helms, use rockets, develop armor plating, find better fuel mixtures, develop cloaking technology(astral/etheral), Create non-helm nessicary spelljammers, radar and its magical equivalant is developed...stop... We move to defensive stance, except for removing demons, in ground war and shift our focas to taking Wildspace...stop.. The Scro now have defilers...stop We increase our knowlege of command and control technologies...stop... [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).] Alzem Dalcama Member posted 04-10-2001 04:44 PM The forces of the angles send a Solar to the bargining table "We have heard of your peace efforts and will offer the hand of peace to any who so desire it. Also we will give those who wish peace the right to come to our haven to hold your meeting, but know this anyone who does violence there will have that violance visited upon himself many times over." ------------------ Cleric of St. Cuthbert "I?m about to drop the hammer, and dispense some indiscriminate justice!" Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 04:46 PM Buzzard, Reprisal: The Illithid have made us an offer. Our strength is enough that should they turn against us, they would likely perish -- at the very least, we would both be severely wounded. Perhaps the time has come to rid ourselves of the Elven Menace (They STARTED IT!) once and for all. After that . . . peace, and technological expansion. What do you say? The Devils will be with us. I believe the Gith will be with us. The Dragons/Sahaugin/other races will be with us. The Defilers will be with us (if we can find them, heh.) Draco's forces will be with us. We can end this, once and for all. And then, PEACE. Forrester Peacemaker [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Reprisal Member posted 04-10-2001 04:46 PM To the Solars: I was just about to say the same thing, who else but the Solars could serve as arbiters and mediators any better? The Technocracy supports the movement of the Conference to the Solar's Haven Island. To Forrester and the Humanoids: We will not move against an enemy that has kept to the cease-fire agreement. The Elves are no longer a concern of the Technocracy insofar as they recognze the fact that we are able to do what we wish on OUR soil. The elves do not have jurisdiction over us, only the Gods and our governments have that. The days of strategic military alliances are over, Forrester, we either move on, or the world is destroyed. I understand your hatred for the elves, we once felt that strongly, but they have been harmed greatly, mostly at your expense. As a result, any further warring will result in the deaths of your people as you demand to be on the front lines... I implore you to take a seat at the Conference table by our side, for you are allies, economically and militarily. The world owes you a debt (in punishing the elves for their arrogance), this is for sure, and we will make sure that you humanoids get your own homelands. ((So, what do we call this? The Treat of Versailles? Heh heh.)) ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus [This message has been edited by Reprisal (edited 04-10-2001).] Riot Gear Member posted 04-10-2001 04:54 PM About my Starcraft tech comment - I misinterpreted Phasmus's comments about Techo-magi-psi-tech. It sounded pretty ass kicking to me. Anyway, I continue to reach a peace accord with the Technomancy and am working my little purple butt off trying to convince the Humanoids to NOT raze the elves again... Oh, and, um, I don't tell them it was me who started the Illithid offensive against them. Kay? ------------------ Grap a mop, there's going to be blood on the ceiling!! -My character. Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 04:56 PM Edena -- I gather we are power level 18 right now, w/the devils, sahaugin, evil dragons, gith, defilers, million of well-armed humanoids, many factories, and, of course, the old Technomancy. What would our power level be without the technomancy? I understand it would (somewhat) slow down technomagical advancement if we did not have their aid . . . but currently, what would our power level look like? (I can't believe it would be less than 16, given that we have our own factories and such now. We're using the technomancy more for help with technomagical development than supplies.) [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Gruffmug Member posted 04-10-2001 04:58 PM Hey, Nok already had that dang blasted psionatrix. Heck, He even helped destroy it with the Water Hammer We created a new one from the shards we had. Did you have shards too? Also, you can leave Athas by planeswalking but getting through the black is almost as hard as leaving "Ravensloft". I think they do have access to the elemental planes though. You can also leave athas by spelljammer but Githyanki control that crystal sphere. Nok "who is the master" "ShoNuff" [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 05:08 PM Forrester, if the Technomancy abandoned all it's technology, it would fall by about 2 Power levels, to level 16. Enkhidu's place was picked for the Peace Conference Currently, the Angels, the Technomancy, the Githyanki/Githzerai, the Scro, and the Illithid are currently sitting at the table. As far as I know, the Elven Alliance, the Humanoids, the Faerie Folk, the Fiends, and the Athasians, are not. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 05:13 PM All of the rifles and bombs and ships and airplanes (all magically-enhanced) are increasing our power level by only two?! That seems bizarre -- but that wasn't actually my question. I wasn't asking what would happen if we all gave up the technology, I was wondering what the power level be if the total forces engaged in an attack WITHOUT the technomancy -- given that the humanoids are, to a large degree, technomancers themselves at this point. (Our kobolds are finally getting respect!!) This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 All times are Central Time (US) This is an ARCHIVED topic. You may not reply to it! Hop to: Contact Us | D&D 3rd Edition News Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47b Note: This is an archived topic. It is read-only. D&D 3rd Edition News Board Other Archived Stuff What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? (Page 14) UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! profile | register | preferences | faq | search This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 This topic was originally posted in this forum: General RPG Discussion Author Topic: What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 05:15 PM The humanoids will sit at the table -- and I believe that given our contract with the devils, I can also speak for them, perhaps. I at least have some influence with them. Forrester Peacemaker Making sure no Huge Bombs go off at the Conference (maybe I'll send a clone) Edit: I await an answer from Riot Gear/Phasmus. Do they offer to help us wipe out the elves, or are these mealy-mouthed squids pretending that all they want is "peace". And have we heard from the Dragon-Lords? [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 05:16 PM I do not understand your question, Forrester. My regrets. Can you rephrase it? (I'm tired. I've had to respond with over 50 posts to this Thread.) Reprisal Member posted 04-10-2001 05:18 PM I'm hoping that Forrester is simply seeing what kind of power his military force would have if he chose to attack the Elves. If he were to turn around and attack us, well, that would be somewhat terrible... We are still a force for your liberty Humanoids, but only if you put down our articles of war and come to the table. As soon as we officially gain a homeland or homelands for you above ground, then you may do as you please. Come to the table, Forrester, your people are dying by the thousands each battle. Your attrition tactics work, but for how long? If you attack the elves, you will drag their allies in, and their allies and their allies. You will also try to drag us into it, and we tire of the barricades, we wish only to advance our civilization beyond warfare. (Post Edit) This is getting really interesting, I love it. In any event, the Technocratic Coalition applauds the arrival of the Humanoid forces. We make sure that our allies will be spoken to and listened to... We'll get you homelands yet... Rep. ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus [This message has been edited by Reprisal (edited 04-10-2001).] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 05:21 PM If I understand the question correctly ... Forrester is asking me what Power Level the humanoids would have, if they went it alone. The answer: Power Level 10 Prior to their technological enhancement, it would have been Power Level 5. If the devils side (and they WILL) with Forrester, that jumps to Power Level 17. If the Athasians side with Forrester, that jumps to Power Level 20. I have spoken. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Enkhidu Member posted 04-10-2001 05:22 PM No need to worry, sonny... The conference will be peaceable - after all I've had quite some time to make create a complicated system of wards, anti-magic shells, "inert" fields (which rob explosives of their "oomph"), and anti-psionics shells. After all I knew the day would come when something like this was necessary, and I've had YEARS to prepare... Enkhidu Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 05:25 PM Reprisal is correct. Wow, Edena, this really has to be hard on you . But this is something you'll be able to talk to your kids about . (Well, maybe not THAT good, but this thread will no doubt go down in history on Eric's boards.) And the rest of this post is moot, because you just answered me! Thanks much. Forrester [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Left-handed Hummingbird Member posted 04-10-2001 05:26 PM What on Earth is going on? I'll never just skip to page 13 of any thread again! Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 05:27 PM If, Forrester, you move against the enemy without your technology, you will lose 5 levels of power, as I indicated just above. You will start at Power Level 5. The devils will back you up, and you will jump to Power Level 12. If the Athasians then join you, you will jump to Power Level 15. If Zouron were then to join you, you'd jump to Power Level 17. Gruffmug Member posted 04-10-2001 05:28 PM We of the Scro alliance side with the humanoids. We were once a great people until the elven fleets sent us to the dark ages. We will not allow that to happen again. We want control of wildspace or a permanent nonaggression pact with the elven fleets will come to the table only if the humanoids agree too. Do not under estamate our power. We control the witchlight marauders, the psionatrix, We have the largest spelljamming fleet, and hundreds of planets worth of resources. Fear us....We are not to be taken lightly We are humaniods, we are many, you are few. Nok "who is the master" "ShoNuff" [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 05:32 PM Forrester, you just got a boost. You now start at Power Level 7. The devils back you, putting you at 14. The scro are backing you, putting you at 16. Furthermore, without you the Technomancy weakens to Power Level 15. You could take them on, and win. The elves/angels/demi-humans/faerie still outgun you, though, with their 20. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 05:33 PM We would never move without our technology -- you answered my question the first time, Edena. Thanks much. (EDIT: Can you add 5 to each of the numbers in the post previous to this?) Hey, Zouron! Feel like pushing our force up to 23? 24 or 25 with the Technomancy. Even better if we get the Athasians. Hmmm. Ah, well. We will cooperate FULLY with our friends the technomancers, FOR NOW. And that means a full wartime R&D effort -- got it, Reprisal? (Edena -- we will continue to try to work Defiler Magic w/Technology in some out-of-the-way place. Perhaps bombs that activate defiler-magic-powered explosions when they hit. The defiling magic would hurt the local environment, and the explosion finishes the job. Defiling Magic + Technology = WOOHOO! (We will not fill our Technomancer friends in on this research, of course. We don't know that they'd understand . . . ) Forrester Peacemaker [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Reprisal Member posted 04-10-2001 05:37 PM I vote that we stop all posting until someone representing the Elves and their allies voice their opinion. I want to see where the Technocracy stands with everyone. Remember, we're still in a cease-fire. I'd also like to know if the Humanoids will only stop when the elves are eradicated, or that they'd stop when the elves formally surrender. That will make a lot of the difference. So, as a result, I will stop posting until Blood Jester or whomever catches up. I'd advise any Technocratic posters to do so also... ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 05:38 PM Ok. The following powers are sitting at the Peace Conference at Enkhidu's house: The Angels The Technomancer Confederation (one of the big three) The Humanoids The Illithid (one of the big three) The Githyanki and Githzerai The following powers are NOT sitting at the table: The Elven Alliance (one of the big three) The Faerie Folk (part of the big three) The Fiends Bran's Druids Zouron's Undead The Athasians The Scro (If I missed anyone, just state whether you're there or not) You know, someone in another Thread a while back said nobody would ever even dream of negotiating with the illithid. How things change. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Gruffmug Member posted 04-10-2001 05:39 PM [/QUOTE]
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