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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1302750" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p><strong>(Post 1) Thread Two of the 1st IR</strong></p><p></p><p>Note: This is an archived topic. It is read-only.</p><p> D&D 3rd Edition News Board </p><p> Other Archived Stuff </p><p> What would your PC do if the gnomes caused the Industrial Revolution, Part Two (Page 1) </p><p></p><p> UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! </p><p></p><p> profile | register | preferences | faq | search </p><p></p><p></p><p> This topic is 2 pages long: 1 2 </p><p> This topic was originally posted in this forum: General RPG Discussion</p><p></p><p> Author </p><p> Topic: What would your PC do if the gnomes caused the Industrial Revolution, Part Two </p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 03:28 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> This is Edena_of_Neith</p><p></p><p> It appears the crash of the EN Message Board wiped out the Thread.</p><p></p><p> I took the precaution of copying the Thread in it's entirety, and I am reposting all 177 or so Posts that were</p><p> on it, here, as one great Post.</p><p></p><p> There are GOING to be major errors in the text, because of the transfer, but I have fixed as many of them</p><p> as I could (I worked for 2 hours to fix mistakes - I wanted to return this Thread to the Message Boards as a</p><p> public service, at the least)</p><p></p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 03:31 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 12:28 AM </p><p></p><p> I am continuing this Thread under it's classic name.</p><p></p><p> The peace conference is dissolved.</p><p></p><p> The illithid have split into 3 groups, True Illithid, Illithid, and NeoIllithid.</p><p> The Scro are chomping for war against the Elven Imperial Navy.</p><p> Zouron's Undead Legions have finally made alliance.</p><p></p><p> The war resumes (there were just too many threats, too many forces eager to attack, for peace to have a</p><p> real chance)</p><p></p><p> Tell me where you stand, folks.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-11-2001).] </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 12:35 AM </p><p></p><p> All the forces of Oerth offered come to Toril.</p><p> That means Oerth is now fully involved in the war.</p><p> Gates make it possible. Permanent Gates make it easy.</p><p></p><p> The Gods of Oerth that walk the land (such as Iuz) do not, however, go to Toril.</p><p></p><p> There are now permanent Gates from Toril to Athas, Krynn, and Oerth. Large numbers of these Gates.</p><p> Travel to and from those worlds is all too easy. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> The Burned Man</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 12:38 AM </p><p></p><p> I begin to collect/buy slaves in exchange for psionic and defiling aid to Forrester/Zouron....</p><p></p><p> *A great ziggurat is being built, with technological aid* </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 12:44 AM </p><p></p><p> I will not speak for them, but as of last note, the following forces explicitly had declared an alliance with the</p><p> Humanoid Technomancy for all purposes, up to and including the slaying of the elves:</p><p></p><p> Evil Sahaugin & Evil Dragons (Forrester) </p><p> Machine-gunning Devils (maddman75)</p><p> Zouron's mighty Undead (Zouron)</p><p> Draco's mighty legions (Mr. Draco)</p><p> (secretly) Dregoth's Defilers (The Burning Man)</p><p> The Gith (Scro? Same thing?) (Gruffmug)</p><p></p><p> All of the above have pledged their services -- we will crush the elven menace ONCE and for ALL.</p><p></p><p> I believe the original Technomancy will also stand with me against the elves, now that they have failed to</p><p> show up at the peace conference. Clearly, this was a sham conference all along. Reprisal? buzzard?</p><p> Lannon? What do you say? We protected you before -- we wish to protect what is now *our* way of life now.</p><p> Let us stand together! Only through this war can we finally achieve peace. </p><p></p><p> Edena -- I posted suggested power levels for most of the above (basically, a summary of what you posted</p><p> in the initial thread) in a previous post on p.16 of the first thread -- of course, perhaps everything has</p><p> changed. </p><p></p><p> I do want to point out that both Zouron and Draco have been integral in helping our kobolds with</p><p> technomagical, technopsionic, and technomagipsionic advancement, up to and including the creation of</p><p> some very, very nasty iron golems. </p><p></p><p> And then there's the defiler technomagery. We are being very careful with *that* research . . . </p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Mr. Draco</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 12:47 AM </p><p></p><p> Ahh, welcome back Edena, I leader of the psionic league, am allies with forrester and the humanoid alliance.</p><p></p><p> Also, i send out a call to all of the world now linked by gates with Toril.</p><p></p><p> "We of the psionic league on Toril bid all psionic beings to join us in our allaince with the Humanoids. All who</p><p> join will have the benefit of our research and facilities."</p><p></p><p> This, of course, includes any other psionic being besides core races that exist on the other worlds, except</p><p> illithid, of course.</p><p></p><p> So now, with any luck, and your blessing (edena) the ranks of th psionic league will soon be flowing with the</p><p> psionic powers of not one, but four worlds.</p><p></p><p> All allied with forrester and the humanoids, and busy developing and building a techno/magical/psionic</p><p> golem army. Also, was I able to convince the titans to side with us (psionic league and humanoids)?</p><p></p><p> Side note- you may count our power level with the humanoid's. But if possible, could you also make note of</p><p> the psionic league's power level seperately, just curious, thanks! </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 12:50 AM </p><p></p><p> Allies (and Edena) -- is it at all possible to close the gates to Oerth and Krynn? I believe our allies might</p><p> have the power. No need to make this war bigger than need be.</p><p></p><p> (Unless, of course, you're the GM and find the possibility of humanoids completely overrunning the surface</p><p> of Faerun intolerable, and so want to supply the damn elves inumerable allies . Hmph!) </p><p></p><p> Forrester, who wants to know whether Iuz can supply solely the non-demonic aid he mentioned, whether the</p><p> devils would tolerate *some* demonic help (look at the strange bedfellows already!), and will take ANY and</p><p> ALL humanoid help from Oerth -- and supply them with full technological assistance. </p><p></p><p> I also want to know how the Dragonlords felt about my offer -- Estlor came to them looking for peace. I</p><p> offered seas filled with elven blood. </p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-11-2001).] </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 12:52 AM </p><p></p><p> To simplify matters ...</p><p></p><p> You now have enough strength, Forrester, to take the Elven Alliance on, but not to defeat it.</p><p></p><p> If the Technomancy, at this point, backs you, Forrester (and the rest of you), you can crush the elves of</p><p> Toril and permanently eliminate them.</p><p></p><p> Someone from the Technomancy MUST speak on this matter first.</p><p></p><p> And no, the Gates of Toril, cannot be closed.</p><p> People are opening new Gates as fast as you can close the old ones.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-11-2001).] </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Mr. Draco</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 12:56 AM </p><p></p><p> Oops, forgot to mention, thanks to gruffmug for supplying a seclude planet to conduct research on and build</p><p> up the armies of the psionic league, perhaps you (forrester) would like to set up golem factories (think</p><p> about it, a whole planet-ful of rescources). In return, we the psionic league will grant the scro psionic</p><p> technologies to use in defeating the royal elven navy.</p><p></p><p> (edit) P.S. about how many new psionists and psionic beings do you (edena) think i can recuit from four</p><p> worlds, maybe 10 million? (creatures and sentients, the creatures would probably just feel the psionic calling</p><p> and obey, i'd say that that many new members, and the psionic league is looking very powerful, maybe</p><p> power level 7 or 8?</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Mr. Draco (edited 04-11-2001).] </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:03 AM </p><p></p><p> CRY HAVOK AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR!!!</p><p></p><p> Well, as soon as one thing is taken care of:</p><p></p><p> TECHNOMANCERS! ARE YOU WITH US?!</p><p></p><p> This is our chance to rid ourselves of the elven menace *FOREVER*. Everkeep, or deep, or whatever, that</p><p> stupid little island of theirs, in RUINS. CRUSHED. The time has come!</p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:03 AM </p><p></p><p> First we offer both The Forces of Zouron Run by Zourun and The Forces of Draco for War Run by Draco a</p><p> planet in Scro space. There in their safe haven, they can safely concentrate on technomagic/technopsionic</p><p> improvements on our weapons. This planet is your as it has already been subjugated by us. You will have a</p><p> legion of troops to defend you.</p><p></p><p> Next, with no word from the neoillithiad the githyanki begin fiercely attacking illithiad ground targets.</p><p> Illithiad hunters with sliver words and machine guns, elementals and psionic monks are doing hit a run on</p><p> surface illithiads.</p><p></p><p> The Githzeral are researching divining spells capable of locate underground Illithiad strongholds.</p><p></p><p> The Thri-Keen(xixchil) begins research lifeshaping Scro and humanoids into more effective warriors. They</p><p> also research modifying the witchlight marauder to give it magic/power resistance. This is accomplished by</p><p> empowerdweomered distort life spells plus their natural ability to shapelife.</p><p></p><p> Nok will also allow serious mages into his base in limbo to see his impress magical horde. He and his</p><p> followers have just finished thier first batch of potions.</p><p> The front receives 2000 potions of invulnerability. </p><p> Any suggestion as to what the magic shops produce next?</p><p></p><p> Most defilers are off planet in realmspace so are indeed safe from reprisal. They are doing hit and run</p><p> attacks. They are protected by a legion of armed troops plus a number of spelljammers. We have a gate to</p><p> humanoid lands.</p><p></p><p> Scro factories begin cranking out improved Iron golems. We also open gates to the paraelemental planes</p><p> and negotiate for more raw materials, thought we already control several planets.</p><p></p><p> The Scro are fulling engaging the elven fleets. As are the Thri-Keen(xixchil). The githyanki/githzeral help</p><p> but are more geared toward finding and attacking the illithiad.</p><p></p><p> Troop deployment (more on the way)</p><p> The Scro send:</p><p> 100,000 assorted humanoids</p><p> 10,000 Scro fighters</p><p> 500 Scro Warpriest</p><p> 250 Scro mages plus supplies</p><p> The thri-keen (xixchil) send:</p><p> 50,000 tohr-keen fighters</p><p> 1,000 Thri-keen psions plus supplies </p><p></p><p> We also offer a planet to the defiliars(see prevous post for more details). </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> johnbrown</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:05 AM </p><p></p><p> Iuz immediately sends his 60,000 orcs, 500 Black Death cavalry, 5000 true demons, an approximate</p><p> number of lesser demons, 3 Red Dragons along, with 200 clerics and a couple members of the Lesser</p><p> Boneheart to keep an eye on things. He plops then down on the least populated area of the main continent</p><p> he can find ( I leave exactly where to you Edena). He then starts actively recruiting. The Rampaging</p><p> Demons and again sends representatives to the Humanoids. Iuz seems content to run things from Oerth.</p><p></p><p> The 10,000 veteran troops and 500 Fists of Hextor arrive at the Technocracy base. They are ready to fight,</p><p> but they will leave immediately if the Technocracy doesn?t start coughing up the rifles, cannons, and</p><p> engineers.</p><p></p><p> Prince Melf and the elves arrive at Evermeet, and are itching for a scrap (although Melf?s personal feelings</p><p> are similar to the Circle of Eight?s, he must follow the order of his queen). </p><p></p><p> The Circle of Eight, The Old Lore, and Old Faith, are desperate to close the portals, especially the portals to</p><p> Oerth (This madness must stop before Oerth is infected with ?technology ? and is destroyed as well).</p><p> Mordenkainen goes off in search of Elminster. The rest of the Circle split up to meet with the elves, and</p><p> Technocracy. The Old Faith,. and Old Lore Representatives go off to meet with the druids and Fey folk. If</p><p> the peace talks fail, they will put Plan B into action. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Mr. Draco</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:06 AM </p><p></p><p> Well, forrester, time to start tallying our armies.</p><p></p><p> Personally the psionic league can supply between 1 and 7 million psionic beings, (creatures and sentients,</p><p> depending on how many edena thinks can be found in four worlds).</p><p></p><p> We should, by now have maybe 5,000 golems?</p><p></p><p> What of the other forces in the humanoid alliance? How many warriors can you send to battle?</p><p></p><p> The call for arms has gone up, let all reply! </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:08 AM </p><p></p><p> Noted.</p><p> The NeoIllithid fight back fiercely, and you discover they are quite as tough as they are made out to be.</p><p> Realizing they would be more advantageous underground, the NeoIllithid retreat Below, and they are joined</p><p> by some of their fellows.</p><p></p><p> Very quickly, a major war is raging in the Upper Underdark.</p><p></p><p> The Technomancy has still not spoken.</p><p></p><p> The elves, their Faerie Folk allies, their angelic allies, their dwarven and gnomish allies, and all their other</p><p> allies are rushing to ready themselves for this last, climatic showdown. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:09 AM </p><p></p><p> Again, Gruffmug, I am doubtful that Edena will give our side entire new planets to play with . Remember that</p><p> the best current technology is still (until Edena says otherwise) only WW1-level stuff.</p><p></p><p> Let's wait for her call. In any case, your help against the elves will be invaluable. </p><p></p><p> DRACO -- Edena's not working with absolute numbers here. I do get the impression that as far as sheer</p><p> numbers go, we're ahead, largely due to the number of humanoids (we breed, you know). I also get the</p><p> impression we're ahead in technology -- which is exactly why we should be able to not only match the elves,</p><p> but take them down. </p><p> (Why the original Technomancy should be absolutely necessary for victory, I'm not sure -- but I accept it.</p><p></p><p> C'mon, buzzard/Reprisal/Lannon! Where are you?!)</p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-11-2001).] </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Mr. Draco</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:10 AM </p><p></p><p> Well, edena thank you for the update, but i am still waiting for the number of psionic beings (creatures and</p><p> sentients) i can recuit from four worlds.</p><p></p><p> GRUFFMUG- The psionic league sends a legion of 20,000 psionic warriors and creatures to help rout out the</p><p> illithid. (fight fire with fire)</p><p></p><p> What next, do the elves reply? </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:17 AM </p><p></p><p> johnbrown -- The Humanoids will completely and totally refuse to ally themselves with demons, as long as</p><p> the devils controlled by maddman75 fail to agree. Given the strange bedfellows, I hope they will.</p><p></p><p> That's not to say that Iuz cannot tell the demons to work independently to crush the elves, of course. But we</p><p> cannot formalize an alliance with them.</p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:19 AM </p><p></p><p> Draco, you can ... literally ... recruit millions of beings.</p><p></p><p> This takes time, though, and Forrester wants to attack NOW. Unfortunately for him, the Technomancy has</p><p> yet to back him or you.</p><p></p><p> It is not possible to shut the portals to Oerth.</p><p> Iuz, among others, is making sure they stay open.</p><p> Because of the interference of Iuz, a large number of Celestials go to reinforce the elves of Toril.</p><p></p><p> Tensions on Oerth mount tremendously.</p><p> The elves of the Lendores are ready to declare war on Aerdi, as are the elves of Celene.</p><p> The dwarves of the Lortmils and Uleks would be only too happy to come along.</p><p> And nobody likes Turmosh Mok and the orcs of the Pomarj.</p><p> Furyondy and Veluna would probably join the elves, and in any case they see this as a chance to attack Iuz,</p><p> for he has weakened himself by sending forces to another world.</p><p></p><p> In other words, folks, you have totally destablized Oerth.</p><p> Oerth was already very unstable, recovering from the Greyhawk Wars. You have pushed it to the brink.</p><p></p><p> On Krynn, the Dragon Overlords are not attacking for a very good reason.</p><p> They are waiting for the people of Toril to destroy each other. It is obvious they are going to do ... just that.</p><p> Then the Dragon Overlords can step in and do as they please.</p><p></p><p> The people of Athas - the normal, ordinary people - demand the Gates be left up.</p><p> They want the heck OUT of their world, onto the green, verdant paradise that you call Toril.</p><p></p><p> It is assumed that all sides are calling up, or summoning, all the Outsider help that is physically possible to</p><p> obtain.</p><p> All sides have, or are in the process of, summoning all the help from other Crystal Spheres they can.</p><p></p><p> It is all centering around Evermeet. </p><p> Evermeet, the last home of the elves on Toril.</p><p> Created by the Sundering 50,000 years ago, the elves will see Toril destroyed before they give it up.</p><p> They will fight to the end. They intend to make you pay a cost so staggering, so awesome, so terrible, for</p><p> Evermeet, that people will be whispering in terror of it another 50,000 years hence. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Reprisal</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:22 AM </p><p></p><p> The Technocracy does not condone the total genocide of any race, even if it is the elves. (( The Kender on</p><p> the other hand... ))</p><p></p><p> If you move, you move alone, we will not attack another land if they do not attack us. We do, on the other</p><p> hand, send Ambassadors to the human and gnomish lands outside of our realm. Do not mistake this as a</p><p> slap in the face, we have asked our populations and they do not crave warfare anymore. We will not stop</p><p> you, and we will continue to trade with you, but we will not take part in a war of aggression on the Elves.</p><p></p><p> Rep.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:23 AM </p><p></p><p> I count the githzeral and githyanki armies in the hundreds of thosands (proably more) as both see the</p><p> Illithiad as a major threat they are fully engaged. Gith do not want to under Illithiad rule again.</p><p></p><p> Both The Scro and the Thri-keen control a crystal sphere. They have allot of troops however thier numbers</p><p> are being used mainly to crush the elven fleets. They both have scores to settle with the elves.</p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:24 AM </p><p></p><p></p><p> The elves of Toril send out a final plea for more help.</p><p> Help from anywhere. Anybody. They don't care who or what or why.</p><p></p><p> This is an urgent, desperate begging.</p><p></p><p> Monsters have come, and Evermeet will be destroyed, and scro and other abominations will rule Toril, if they</p><p> fail to receive this assistance, they say. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> johnbrown</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:24 AM </p><p></p><p> Iuz no problem with this arrangement. A formal or informal alliance makes no difference to him. The</p><p> Demons will attack the elves, once he hears from the Ramapaging Demons. Iuz does expect Humanoid</p><p> assistance (no Devils invited) on Oerth when this is over, however. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:26 AM </p><p></p><p> Edena -- I am impatient, but I am willing to wait for Zouron to collect his allies, as long as it seems as</p><p> though we are getting forces faster than the elves/celestials are. </p><p> Of course, if the Technomancy steps in, then we can begin our assault on the elves while the recruiting takes</p><p> place . . . </p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker</p><p></p><p> Oh -- the foolish elven threats bore me to tears. What are they going to do, reduce my people to living in</p><p> caves, eating grubs and fungi and stray lizards, barely ekeing out an existence?</p><p></p><p> Welcome to our last few millenia. </p><p></p><p> I *will* remind you that with the Month of Terror of a few years ago, and the fact that so many of the most</p><p> powerful elven wizards sacrificed their lives to cast that 12th level spell, I am somewhat skeptical that they</p><p> could pull something just as powerful out of their butts once again.</p><p></p><p> Of course, they're elves, so maybe that's all the reason they need . . .</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-11-2001).] </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Mr. Draco</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:26 AM </p><p></p><p> Hey, edena, would the illithid of other worlds come and join the psionic league?</p><p></p><p> If so, we would have three times the number of illithid on our side as there presently are on toril. If we set</p><p> aside enough mindflayers to take on the resistance on toril in one on one battles, then only a few other</p><p> fighters will tip the balance to our side, and we will still have many more illithid to help us and set loose on</p><p> the elves, so edena, what do you say, do the illithid of other worlds help the psionic league? </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:29 AM </p><p></p><p> The elves, along with all their allies (faerie, angel, dwarve, gnome, etc.) send a diplomatic envoy to the</p><p> Technomancy.</p><p> Offering Alliance with the Technomancy.</p><p> Alliance against the hordes of Scro and Thri-Kreen who are coming from the two Crystal Spheres they control.</p><p> Alliance against the humanoid hordes out of control.</p><p> Alliance against the devils, demons, and the massive forces of evil Outsiders and evil humanoids being sent</p><p> from other worlds.</p><p></p><p> The elves say: this is our world. Toril. Toril the beautiful.</p><p> Let's stand together, we of Toril, against the extra-planar and extra-world menaces.</p><p></p><p> The elves even send a diplomat to the NeoIllithids, requesting alliance with them.</p><p></p><p> The message:</p><p></p><p> Let's protect our world, Toril, Abeir-Toril, the Cradle of Life, from the millions of monstrosities from other</p><p> worlds that have come, or are coming, to overwhelm us all, and those on this world who would ally with them.</p><p> The elves point to the Defilers of Athas as a prime example of these unwanted outsiders, and the demons,</p><p> who continue to rampage and plunder indiscriminately. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p></p><p> (Page 2) </p><p></p><p></p><p> Author </p><p> Topic: </p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:32 AM </p><p></p><p> Draco, absolutely not.</p><p> The illithid of other worlds are coming.</p><p> To support the Illithid Alliance of this world (not the NeoIllithids)</p><p></p><p> And the Illithid Alliance of this world, has not taken any side but it's own.</p><p></p><p> And, by the way, they ARE now close to figuring out how to put out Toril's sun. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> johnbrown</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:32 AM </p><p></p><p> The Circle of Eight, The Old Lore and Old Faith, sensing that peace is no longer an option throw in with the</p><p> elves. Plan B consists of Ulek, Celene, Furyondian, Velenese, Keoland, Greyhawk figter, cleric, wizard, and</p><p> rouge that hey can lay their hands on throwing in with the elves as well (better to have Toril destroyed than</p><p> Oerth). </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:34 AM </p><p></p><p> They scro alliance arrrive in Oerth's crystal sphere and begin scouting with small unintrusive spelljammers.</p><p> What defenses do they have? </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:35 AM </p><p></p><p> REPRISAL!!!! You FOOL! </p><p> Grrrrrrrrrrr. Coward. </p><p></p><p> Okay, Edena. As soon as Zouron and Draco have summoned enough help to take down the elves, I</p><p> ATTACK! We will start by eliminating the elven menace from everywhere BUT Evermeet -- we want to control</p><p> all of the continents, if we do not already. Perhaps the cowards have already fled.</p><p></p><p> After that, all of the remaining elves will be on Evermeet. May I ask, Edena, the approximate dimensions of</p><p> this island?</p><p></p><p> Our mages may find it easier to cause a massive tidal wave that would wipe out all life there -- rather than</p><p> taking the time to invade. Heh heh heh. </p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker</p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:37 AM </p><p></p><p> Noted.</p><p> It is easy for all these nations to send forces, since the Gates are now open.</p><p> Evermeet welcomes them eagerly.</p><p></p><p> There is a problem, though.</p><p> Iuz immediately attacks Furyondy, Veluna, the Vesve, and the Shieldlands.</p><p> This is partly to stop you from doing what you were trying to do: support the elves.</p><p> He is also doing it because you are weakened, having sent large forces to aid the elves of Toril.</p><p></p><p> The moment Iuz does this, the war in Teht flares up all over again.</p><p> Stonefist declares war. The Theocracy declares war. Exhausted Nyrond is pulled back into the conflict.</p><p></p><p> The outraged dwarves and elves, jumping the gun, attack Turmosh Mok and his Pomarj orcs.</p><p> Seizing the initiative, Greyhawk and the cities of the Wild Coast, and Verbobonc, join in the attack.</p><p></p><p> Seeing the nations supporting Geoff and Sterich occupied, the giants and drow renew their attacks.</p><p></p><p> The Scarlet Brotherhood watches all this, waiting for the opportunity to pounce. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:41 AM </p><p></p><p> Do you see, Reprisal? They ask your help AGAINST us! They WISH WAR! Let us give it to them!</p><p></p><p> Should you decide to move against us -- no, you could not possibly be that foolish! We *are* the production</p><p> of your empire. We are the guardians. You are in our midst -- and ever have been since we defended you</p><p> from these accursed elves. Should you throw in your lot with them, you would fall within *days*. </p><p></p><p> Do not be tempted by elves. </p><p></p><p> Meanwhile, I secretly talk with Iuz about a possible invasion of Oerth. Most of the "good" powerful forces</p><p> apparently have come to Faerun. No doubt that there are humanoid factories starting up in Oerth. And</p><p> besides, the Toril sun is about to be blotted out anyway. </p><p></p><p> It may be time to leave this accursed world, and start in a new one. </p><p></p><p> NOBODY expected THAT, DID you?!</p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Considering Getting The Hell Out Of Here</p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> johnbrown</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:42 AM </p><p></p><p> Has Modenkien been able to speak with Elminster? If so what's his take on all of this. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:43 AM </p><p></p><p> Holy COW! I posted the post after Edena's BEFORE I read it . . . simultaneous posts, both dealing with war</p><p> on Oerth.</p><p></p><p> So how about it, Edena? Would a mass migration to Oerth be successful -- and offer us a greater chance for</p><p> victory/our own Humanoid Homeland? Or not (very likely not). But I must ask . . . </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:43 AM </p><p></p><p> The final war for the elves begins.</p><p> The Elven Imperial Navy has positioned itself over Evermeet, to protect it from Wildspace.</p><p> The elves have a large ethereal, and a large astral, force, ready to defend against planar attacks.</p><p> They have large defenses Below.</p><p> Evermeet itself is 200 miles long, and 100 wide.</p><p> Every mountain and hill, every tree, every building, everything you could think of and more, has been</p><p> fortified, refortified, magically fortified, magically fortified again, and elves are ready to sell their lives</p><p> dearly.</p><p> With them stand legions of angels. Practically all the Faerie Folk of Toril. Massive hosts of dwarves and</p><p> gnomes. </p><p> With them stand vast numbers of peoples from other worlds and planes.</p><p> A host of Outsiders from Arvandor.</p><p> A vast host of humans and demi-humans from Oerth.</p><p> The list goes on and on.</p><p></p><p> The final war begins. </p><p> Scro and Elven ships clash in space. The sky lights up with the explosions.</p><p> Mages teleport to battle. A thousand spells detonate.</p><p> Warships collide, guns blazing, fireballs lobbed, lightning bolts shattering the skies with endless thunder.</p><p> The sea churns and boils as the sea elves and merfolk clash with the sahuagin and others.</p><p></p><p> Wild magic storms begin erupting, and racing eastward. Multicolored lightning flickers from strange clouds of</p><p> black and purple hues.</p><p> Hurricane force winds strike the mainland. Great waves roll in, harbingers of things to come. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> johnbrown</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:45 AM </p><p></p><p> Forrester,</p><p></p><p> Iuz thinks that's a wonderful idea. But you have to leave the devils here. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:46 AM </p><p></p><p> Hmmmm. It seems that Edena is typing faster than I am. That's amazing in itself.</p><p></p><p> I guess we're not going to do the big Switcheroo/Attack Oerth.</p><p></p><p> I order my Underdark humanoid factories to batten down the hatches, if they haven't already. Looks like the</p><p> elves are going to be doing some dumb High Elven Magic again. Bastards. Well, it isn't as though we didn't</p><p> see it coming.</p><p></p><p> Technomancers -- this is your time to act, and help us before Elven High Magic destroys us all. Again. </p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:47 AM </p><p></p><p> To add to the confusion of Oerth the Scro alliance begins making raids on the surface helping Iuz. </p><p></p><p> Also, the scro welcome the people of Athas. Stong warriors we can respect. </p><p></p><p> Forrester, we do get the planets as it was stated I do control two crystal spheres. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:49 AM </p><p></p><p> It is not my right to speak for another's character, so I cannot speak for Elminster.</p><p></p><p> However, it should be obvious the Chosen are taking the side of the elves, and fighting for them.</p><p> Also, the nations of Toril that sided with the elves, are sending all the force they can, via teleportation circles</p><p> and Gate, to Evermeet.</p><p> It's do or die time, for them.</p><p> They empty themselves of fighters, throw everything they have at the conflict.</p><p> Nations like Rashemen, Aglarond, Cormyr - they are hurling everything they have against the foe.</p><p></p><p> The Technomancy could have a field day against these countries. They could walk right in and take over.</p><p> These countries are beyond caring. </p><p> All they see is that Outsiders and monsters from other worlds have come to destroy their world.</p><p></p><p> The battle rages. All out war is in progress.</p><p> An immense cloud forms over Evermeet, filling the planet's troposphere and stratosphere.</p><p> Lightning flickers out of it from all sides, bottom, sides, and top.</p><p> The cloud is clearly visible across all of western Faerun, and people look on in awe.</p><p></p><p></p><p> I need to know what the Technomancy is going to do, and I need to know NOW.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-11-2001).] </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> DarwinofMind</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:55 AM </p><p></p><p> Wow! Ok, I'm back, but about to go to sleep, I considered packing my PlaneWalkers up and leaving, but we</p><p> realize that this war is spilling out there may be no where to run.</p><p></p><p> I have met with the Dragon-king in the interest of learning new psionics. </p><p></p><p> (OOC: Edena I know your running this but I'm with Forrester why does the Chosen side witht the elves when</p><p> they started the war that may destroy the multiverse and they fired the spell that could have killed Mystera?</p><p> I fail to see why anyone would side with the elves in this. Other then the Metagaming aspect of Elves are</p><p> cool we have to keep them alive there part of the game.)</p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:56 AM </p><p></p><p> Okay. There is but ONE course . . . ONE thing to do at this point.</p><p></p><p> If we can . . . </p><p></p><p> We've been working on a little spell -- to shut down Psionics for a little while. Well, as the elves pointed out,</p><p> there's ANOTHER little spell out there . . . that shuts down all MAGIC for a little while.</p><p></p><p> It's time to use BOTH -- and BOTH it must be. One or the other will not be enough. First the Psionics one --</p><p> then, a day later, the Magic one. This will give the Phaerimm ample opportunity to free themselves from the</p><p> Illithid *and* slay many of them, spoiling their plans. </p><p></p><p> Then, we stop all Magic. Evermeet will lose all magical protection -- and with our greater numbers, they will</p><p> FALL, FALL, FALL! The Devils will be warned -- but the Solars will die, the Outsiders will die, and the elves,</p><p> who once again overrelied on their magic, will die. Our troops will be in non-magical ironclads, but they will</p><p> still float (and again, we have the powers of the evil sea creatures). Even without the magic, we have</p><p> excellent technology -- and we have greater numbers! And we will be prepared for what happens. The elves</p><p> will not.</p><p></p><p> Assuming that both spells will work, and that we can get enough troops to Evermeet afterwards -- that's</p><p> EXACTLY what we do.</p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker</p><p></p><p> We will stop the Elven High Magic from destroying Toril. . .</p><p></p><p> Oh -- keep in mind that since the last fiasco, the Technomancy (and the humanoids technomancy), while</p><p> adding magic to various items, has made sure that most still function WITHOUT them. Rifles without</p><p> Truestrike and +3 bullets are still rifles. </p><p></p><p> Of course, perhaps we can't even cast the demagicking spell -- in which case, hell with it. We'll just kicking</p><p> their ass anyway. </p><p></p><p> (And we *wouldn't* cast it unless we knew we could overwhelm the Island, Normandy-style, right afterwards .</p><p> . . )</p><p></p><p> Lord Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-11-2001).] </p><p></p><p></p><p> Mr. Draco</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 03:32 PM </p><p></p><p> Wow, that is impressive...</p><p> Good luck edena.</p><p></p><p> If it is possible, could people still help me put together enough pertinent information in the other post</p><p> (titled: "History of toril during the industrial revolution") to create a viable campaign world, i think it would be</p><p> really great if people could help with that.</p><p></p><p> Bugaboo</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 03:34 PM </p><p></p><p> ... And then the world disappeared.</p><p></p><p> That's where Bugaboo came in! </p><p> (But he didn't stay long; just enough to have fun while he rebooted reality under the guise of his Edna of</p><p> Nieth avatar. Then he left again.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Mr. Draco</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 03:34 PM </p><p></p><p> Nuts, the part about the psionic league sacrificing itself for toril is gone.</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 03:36 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:56 AM </p><p></p><p> The Scro weary of elven magic back off to the edge of Toril. We then send a massive fleet expendable whos</p><p> sole purpose is release 10 improved Witchlight marauders (they have regenation and spell resistance) on or</p><p> as near as possible.</p><p></p><p> hmm.. it may be better if we wait and consult forrester first. We have what amounts to an A bomb do we use</p><p> it?</p><p></p><p> Nok</p><p> "We let the dogs out"</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-11-2001).] </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 01:57 AM </p><p></p><p> The Chosen answer you, Darwin.</p><p> The Chosen state:</p><p></p><p> If the elves of Toril are exterminated, it will cause all life on Toril to end.</p><p> This is because the elves are a part of the Magic.</p><p> The Magic of Toril.</p><p> The elves ARE a part of the Weave.</p><p></p><p> Magic and life on Toril are entwined. One cannot exist without the other.</p><p> Destroying all the elves, down to the last and least, will wreck the Weave. </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Reprisal</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 02:03 AM </p><p></p><p> In an address to the United Parliament of the Technocratic Coalition, broadcasted on the D&D equivalent of</p><p> radio, even though we may as well have it if we've got WWI level technology.</p><p></p><p> "Members, Ministers, we stand at a precipice. We have been through close to six years of warfare, and it has</p><p> become more than obvious that if we continue, not only will it end in fire, it will end in the total destruction of</p><p> entire populations...</p><p></p><p> "We did not start this war, the elves did, and we battled them back with the help of our humanoid allies,</p><p> under Lord Forrester, and now we stand as a monument to a society built not only on technology, but on the</p><p> rights of every sentient being that walks this planet. This was a battle of self-determination, and we have</p><p> won that after our baptism of fire. We are a young collection of nations by all standards, and yet we still</p><p> have the sum knowledge of all that have come before us.</p><p></p><p> "The question now becomes: 'Do we have the right to erase an entire race from the face of the planet?' I</p><p> fear that if we do so, we will become not only hippocrates, but no better than the elves. We, as a nation,</p><p> have built our nation on the fact that no one nation has jurisdiction over that of another, separate one. The</p><p> only war that is justified is one of defense, and the war our allies have advocated, have pushed upon us, is</p><p> not a just war.</p><p></p><p> "Though we still treat our allies as compatriots, we will not march our armies onto foreign soil if they have</p><p> not attacked us. The Great War is over, and I for one wish it to remain so... The question, I pose, is one of</p><p> the utmost importance: With the introduction of other worlds, alien to you, I and many others, do we dare</p><p> act with impudence? What dangers face our citizens, our sons, if we agree to send any of them into the</p><p> breach?</p><p></p><p> "I do not wish to fight, but if we must, we will. Despite what some may believe, we are still a force to be</p><p> reckoned with, we have just grown ourselves a set of values that we can call our own. These may prove alien</p><p> to some, but they must be respected, or all we have fought for has been for naught. It is with a heavy heart</p><p> that I ask the Honourable Speaker to call a vote on what we do next:</p><p></p><p> "Mr. Speaker, as leader of the Liberal-Democratic Coalition, I call for a vote on our next action. I see three</p><p> things that we may do: (1) Join the Humanoids in a war that we know to be unjuste, (2) Join the Elven</p><p> Combine in a war we know to be unjuste, or (3) remain neutral in its truest sense. I believe that the answer</p><p> is obvious, please, we cannot turn on the values of our founders, we must respect the sovereignty of any</p><p> and every nation on this world, or not on this world.</p><p></p><p> "What the humanoids choose to do is of their own concern. It is now that we, and we alone will decide what it</p><p> is that we do from now on. We are free from the tyranny of the elder races, and what we do from here is a</p><p> result of our choices. I do wish that those who hear this respect our choice, for it is ours to make.</p><p></p><p> "Thank you."</p><p></p><p> (( Though I, as a political leader, advocate the total neutrality of our Coalition of Nations, I cannot dictate</p><p> what it is that we do, it is up to either Buzzard, and Lannon to help make the choice. Should they not be</p><p> here, I leave their two votes to Edena. ))</p><p></p><p> Reprisal.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus </p><p></p><p> IP: Logged</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-11-2001 02:03 AM </p><p></p><p> Sorry, Forrester, but the elves are the only ones who could pull that stunt. And then, only once.</p><p></p><p> However, the dropping of Witchlights on Toril is it. That's the final straw.</p><p></p><p> Do you know what a Witchlight is?!</p><p> It is a creature that multiples out of control, and this multiplication is measured in seconds.</p><p> The multiplication requires no growth, and no sustenance, except that the Witchlights must eat, and eat,</p><p> and eat.</p><p></p><p> They cannot be stopped, once started, once they have really gotten going, by any known magic or being.</p><p></p><p> And your scro allies just dropped several on Evermeet.</p><p> Water is NOT an obstacle to witchlights. Multiplying out of control, they will destroy all of Toril.</p><p></p><p> The elves unleash their answer to the Witchlight, as they promised they would.</p><p> The tarrasque is awakened from it's slumber, and it comes to Evermeet (and the elves weep, too, at the</p><p> grim necessity of doing this awful thing, bringing THIS being to their sacred homeland).</p><p></p><p> The tarrasque, alone, is capable of taking on and stopping the Witchlights.</p><p></p><p> The tarrasque ... starts to feed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1302750, member: 2020"] [b](Post 1) Thread Two of the 1st IR[/b] Note: This is an archived topic. It is read-only. D&D 3rd Edition News Board Other Archived Stuff What would your PC do if the gnomes caused the Industrial Revolution, Part Two (Page 1) UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! profile | register | preferences | faq | search This topic is 2 pages long: 1 2 This topic was originally posted in this forum: General RPG Discussion Author Topic: What would your PC do if the gnomes caused the Industrial Revolution, Part Two Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 03:28 PM This is Edena_of_Neith It appears the crash of the EN Message Board wiped out the Thread. I took the precaution of copying the Thread in it's entirety, and I am reposting all 177 or so Posts that were on it, here, as one great Post. There are GOING to be major errors in the text, because of the transfer, but I have fixed as many of them as I could (I worked for 2 hours to fix mistakes - I wanted to return this Thread to the Message Boards as a public service, at the least) Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 03:31 PM IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 12:28 AM I am continuing this Thread under it's classic name. The peace conference is dissolved. The illithid have split into 3 groups, True Illithid, Illithid, and NeoIllithid. The Scro are chomping for war against the Elven Imperial Navy. Zouron's Undead Legions have finally made alliance. The war resumes (there were just too many threats, too many forces eager to attack, for peace to have a real chance) Tell me where you stand, folks. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-11-2001).] IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 12:35 AM All the forces of Oerth offered come to Toril. That means Oerth is now fully involved in the war. Gates make it possible. Permanent Gates make it easy. The Gods of Oerth that walk the land (such as Iuz) do not, however, go to Toril. There are now permanent Gates from Toril to Athas, Krynn, and Oerth. Large numbers of these Gates. Travel to and from those worlds is all too easy. IP: Logged The Burned Man Member posted 04-11-2001 12:38 AM I begin to collect/buy slaves in exchange for psionic and defiling aid to Forrester/Zouron.... *A great ziggurat is being built, with technological aid* IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 12:44 AM I will not speak for them, but as of last note, the following forces explicitly had declared an alliance with the Humanoid Technomancy for all purposes, up to and including the slaying of the elves: Evil Sahaugin & Evil Dragons (Forrester) Machine-gunning Devils (maddman75) Zouron's mighty Undead (Zouron) Draco's mighty legions (Mr. Draco) (secretly) Dregoth's Defilers (The Burning Man) The Gith (Scro? Same thing?) (Gruffmug) All of the above have pledged their services -- we will crush the elven menace ONCE and for ALL. I believe the original Technomancy will also stand with me against the elves, now that they have failed to show up at the peace conference. Clearly, this was a sham conference all along. Reprisal? buzzard? Lannon? What do you say? We protected you before -- we wish to protect what is now *our* way of life now. Let us stand together! Only through this war can we finally achieve peace. Edena -- I posted suggested power levels for most of the above (basically, a summary of what you posted in the initial thread) in a previous post on p.16 of the first thread -- of course, perhaps everything has changed. I do want to point out that both Zouron and Draco have been integral in helping our kobolds with technomagical, technopsionic, and technomagipsionic advancement, up to and including the creation of some very, very nasty iron golems. And then there's the defiler technomagery. We are being very careful with *that* research . . . Lord Forrester Peacemaker IP: Logged Mr. Draco Member posted 04-11-2001 12:47 AM Ahh, welcome back Edena, I leader of the psionic league, am allies with forrester and the humanoid alliance. Also, i send out a call to all of the world now linked by gates with Toril. "We of the psionic league on Toril bid all psionic beings to join us in our allaince with the Humanoids. All who join will have the benefit of our research and facilities." This, of course, includes any other psionic being besides core races that exist on the other worlds, except illithid, of course. So now, with any luck, and your blessing (edena) the ranks of th psionic league will soon be flowing with the psionic powers of not one, but four worlds. All allied with forrester and the humanoids, and busy developing and building a techno/magical/psionic golem army. Also, was I able to convince the titans to side with us (psionic league and humanoids)? Side note- you may count our power level with the humanoid's. But if possible, could you also make note of the psionic league's power level seperately, just curious, thanks! IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 12:50 AM Allies (and Edena) -- is it at all possible to close the gates to Oerth and Krynn? I believe our allies might have the power. No need to make this war bigger than need be. (Unless, of course, you're the GM and find the possibility of humanoids completely overrunning the surface of Faerun intolerable, and so want to supply the damn elves inumerable allies . Hmph!) Forrester, who wants to know whether Iuz can supply solely the non-demonic aid he mentioned, whether the devils would tolerate *some* demonic help (look at the strange bedfellows already!), and will take ANY and ALL humanoid help from Oerth -- and supply them with full technological assistance. I also want to know how the Dragonlords felt about my offer -- Estlor came to them looking for peace. I offered seas filled with elven blood. [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-11-2001).] IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 12:52 AM To simplify matters ... You now have enough strength, Forrester, to take the Elven Alliance on, but not to defeat it. If the Technomancy, at this point, backs you, Forrester (and the rest of you), you can crush the elves of Toril and permanently eliminate them. Someone from the Technomancy MUST speak on this matter first. And no, the Gates of Toril, cannot be closed. People are opening new Gates as fast as you can close the old ones. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-11-2001).] IP: Logged Mr. Draco Member posted 04-11-2001 12:56 AM Oops, forgot to mention, thanks to gruffmug for supplying a seclude planet to conduct research on and build up the armies of the psionic league, perhaps you (forrester) would like to set up golem factories (think about it, a whole planet-ful of rescources). In return, we the psionic league will grant the scro psionic technologies to use in defeating the royal elven navy. (edit) P.S. about how many new psionists and psionic beings do you (edena) think i can recuit from four worlds, maybe 10 million? (creatures and sentients, the creatures would probably just feel the psionic calling and obey, i'd say that that many new members, and the psionic league is looking very powerful, maybe power level 7 or 8? [This message has been edited by Mr. Draco (edited 04-11-2001).] IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 01:03 AM CRY HAVOK AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR!!! Well, as soon as one thing is taken care of: TECHNOMANCERS! ARE YOU WITH US?! This is our chance to rid ourselves of the elven menace *FOREVER*. Everkeep, or deep, or whatever, that stupid little island of theirs, in RUINS. CRUSHED. The time has come! Lord Forrester Peacemaker IP: Logged Gruffmug Member posted 04-11-2001 01:03 AM First we offer both The Forces of Zouron Run by Zourun and The Forces of Draco for War Run by Draco a planet in Scro space. There in their safe haven, they can safely concentrate on technomagic/technopsionic improvements on our weapons. This planet is your as it has already been subjugated by us. You will have a legion of troops to defend you. Next, with no word from the neoillithiad the githyanki begin fiercely attacking illithiad ground targets. Illithiad hunters with sliver words and machine guns, elementals and psionic monks are doing hit a run on surface illithiads. The Githzeral are researching divining spells capable of locate underground Illithiad strongholds. The Thri-Keen(xixchil) begins research lifeshaping Scro and humanoids into more effective warriors. They also research modifying the witchlight marauder to give it magic/power resistance. This is accomplished by empowerdweomered distort life spells plus their natural ability to shapelife. Nok will also allow serious mages into his base in limbo to see his impress magical horde. He and his followers have just finished thier first batch of potions. The front receives 2000 potions of invulnerability. Any suggestion as to what the magic shops produce next? Most defilers are off planet in realmspace so are indeed safe from reprisal. They are doing hit and run attacks. They are protected by a legion of armed troops plus a number of spelljammers. We have a gate to humanoid lands. Scro factories begin cranking out improved Iron golems. We also open gates to the paraelemental planes and negotiate for more raw materials, thought we already control several planets. The Scro are fulling engaging the elven fleets. As are the Thri-Keen(xixchil). The githyanki/githzeral help but are more geared toward finding and attacking the illithiad. Troop deployment (more on the way) The Scro send: 100,000 assorted humanoids 10,000 Scro fighters 500 Scro Warpriest 250 Scro mages plus supplies The thri-keen (xixchil) send: 50,000 tohr-keen fighters 1,000 Thri-keen psions plus supplies We also offer a planet to the defiliars(see prevous post for more details). IP: Logged johnbrown Member posted 04-11-2001 01:05 AM Iuz immediately sends his 60,000 orcs, 500 Black Death cavalry, 5000 true demons, an approximate number of lesser demons, 3 Red Dragons along, with 200 clerics and a couple members of the Lesser Boneheart to keep an eye on things. He plops then down on the least populated area of the main continent he can find ( I leave exactly where to you Edena). He then starts actively recruiting. The Rampaging Demons and again sends representatives to the Humanoids. Iuz seems content to run things from Oerth. The 10,000 veteran troops and 500 Fists of Hextor arrive at the Technocracy base. They are ready to fight, but they will leave immediately if the Technocracy doesn?t start coughing up the rifles, cannons, and engineers. Prince Melf and the elves arrive at Evermeet, and are itching for a scrap (although Melf?s personal feelings are similar to the Circle of Eight?s, he must follow the order of his queen). The Circle of Eight, The Old Lore, and Old Faith, are desperate to close the portals, especially the portals to Oerth (This madness must stop before Oerth is infected with ?technology ? and is destroyed as well). Mordenkainen goes off in search of Elminster. The rest of the Circle split up to meet with the elves, and Technocracy. The Old Faith,. and Old Lore Representatives go off to meet with the druids and Fey folk. If the peace talks fail, they will put Plan B into action. IP: Logged Mr. Draco Member posted 04-11-2001 01:06 AM Well, forrester, time to start tallying our armies. Personally the psionic league can supply between 1 and 7 million psionic beings, (creatures and sentients, depending on how many edena thinks can be found in four worlds). We should, by now have maybe 5,000 golems? What of the other forces in the humanoid alliance? How many warriors can you send to battle? The call for arms has gone up, let all reply! IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 01:08 AM Noted. The NeoIllithid fight back fiercely, and you discover they are quite as tough as they are made out to be. Realizing they would be more advantageous underground, the NeoIllithid retreat Below, and they are joined by some of their fellows. Very quickly, a major war is raging in the Upper Underdark. The Technomancy has still not spoken. The elves, their Faerie Folk allies, their angelic allies, their dwarven and gnomish allies, and all their other allies are rushing to ready themselves for this last, climatic showdown. IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 01:09 AM Again, Gruffmug, I am doubtful that Edena will give our side entire new planets to play with . Remember that the best current technology is still (until Edena says otherwise) only WW1-level stuff. Let's wait for her call. In any case, your help against the elves will be invaluable. DRACO -- Edena's not working with absolute numbers here. I do get the impression that as far as sheer numbers go, we're ahead, largely due to the number of humanoids (we breed, you know). I also get the impression we're ahead in technology -- which is exactly why we should be able to not only match the elves, but take them down. (Why the original Technomancy should be absolutely necessary for victory, I'm not sure -- but I accept it. C'mon, buzzard/Reprisal/Lannon! Where are you?!) Lord Forrester Peacemaker [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-11-2001).] IP: Logged Mr. Draco Member posted 04-11-2001 01:10 AM Well, edena thank you for the update, but i am still waiting for the number of psionic beings (creatures and sentients) i can recuit from four worlds. GRUFFMUG- The psionic league sends a legion of 20,000 psionic warriors and creatures to help rout out the illithid. (fight fire with fire) What next, do the elves reply? IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 01:17 AM johnbrown -- The Humanoids will completely and totally refuse to ally themselves with demons, as long as the devils controlled by maddman75 fail to agree. Given the strange bedfellows, I hope they will. That's not to say that Iuz cannot tell the demons to work independently to crush the elves, of course. But we cannot formalize an alliance with them. Lord Forrester Peacemaker IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 01:19 AM Draco, you can ... literally ... recruit millions of beings. This takes time, though, and Forrester wants to attack NOW. Unfortunately for him, the Technomancy has yet to back him or you. It is not possible to shut the portals to Oerth. Iuz, among others, is making sure they stay open. Because of the interference of Iuz, a large number of Celestials go to reinforce the elves of Toril. Tensions on Oerth mount tremendously. The elves of the Lendores are ready to declare war on Aerdi, as are the elves of Celene. The dwarves of the Lortmils and Uleks would be only too happy to come along. And nobody likes Turmosh Mok and the orcs of the Pomarj. Furyondy and Veluna would probably join the elves, and in any case they see this as a chance to attack Iuz, for he has weakened himself by sending forces to another world. In other words, folks, you have totally destablized Oerth. Oerth was already very unstable, recovering from the Greyhawk Wars. You have pushed it to the brink. On Krynn, the Dragon Overlords are not attacking for a very good reason. They are waiting for the people of Toril to destroy each other. It is obvious they are going to do ... just that. Then the Dragon Overlords can step in and do as they please. The people of Athas - the normal, ordinary people - demand the Gates be left up. They want the heck OUT of their world, onto the green, verdant paradise that you call Toril. It is assumed that all sides are calling up, or summoning, all the Outsider help that is physically possible to obtain. All sides have, or are in the process of, summoning all the help from other Crystal Spheres they can. It is all centering around Evermeet. Evermeet, the last home of the elves on Toril. Created by the Sundering 50,000 years ago, the elves will see Toril destroyed before they give it up. They will fight to the end. They intend to make you pay a cost so staggering, so awesome, so terrible, for Evermeet, that people will be whispering in terror of it another 50,000 years hence. IP: Logged Reprisal Member posted 04-11-2001 01:22 AM The Technocracy does not condone the total genocide of any race, even if it is the elves. (( The Kender on the other hand... )) If you move, you move alone, we will not attack another land if they do not attack us. We do, on the other hand, send Ambassadors to the human and gnomish lands outside of our realm. Do not mistake this as a slap in the face, we have asked our populations and they do not crave warfare anymore. We will not stop you, and we will continue to trade with you, but we will not take part in a war of aggression on the Elves. Rep. ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus IP: Logged Gruffmug Member posted 04-11-2001 01:23 AM I count the githzeral and githyanki armies in the hundreds of thosands (proably more) as both see the Illithiad as a major threat they are fully engaged. Gith do not want to under Illithiad rule again. Both The Scro and the Thri-keen control a crystal sphere. They have allot of troops however thier numbers are being used mainly to crush the elven fleets. They both have scores to settle with the elves. IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 01:24 AM The elves of Toril send out a final plea for more help. Help from anywhere. Anybody. They don't care who or what or why. This is an urgent, desperate begging. Monsters have come, and Evermeet will be destroyed, and scro and other abominations will rule Toril, if they fail to receive this assistance, they say. IP: Logged johnbrown Member posted 04-11-2001 01:24 AM Iuz no problem with this arrangement. A formal or informal alliance makes no difference to him. The Demons will attack the elves, once he hears from the Ramapaging Demons. Iuz does expect Humanoid assistance (no Devils invited) on Oerth when this is over, however. IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 01:26 AM Edena -- I am impatient, but I am willing to wait for Zouron to collect his allies, as long as it seems as though we are getting forces faster than the elves/celestials are. Of course, if the Technomancy steps in, then we can begin our assault on the elves while the recruiting takes place . . . Lord Forrester Peacemaker Oh -- the foolish elven threats bore me to tears. What are they going to do, reduce my people to living in caves, eating grubs and fungi and stray lizards, barely ekeing out an existence? Welcome to our last few millenia. I *will* remind you that with the Month of Terror of a few years ago, and the fact that so many of the most powerful elven wizards sacrificed their lives to cast that 12th level spell, I am somewhat skeptical that they could pull something just as powerful out of their butts once again. Of course, they're elves, so maybe that's all the reason they need . . . [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-11-2001).] IP: Logged Mr. Draco Member posted 04-11-2001 01:26 AM Hey, edena, would the illithid of other worlds come and join the psionic league? If so, we would have three times the number of illithid on our side as there presently are on toril. If we set aside enough mindflayers to take on the resistance on toril in one on one battles, then only a few other fighters will tip the balance to our side, and we will still have many more illithid to help us and set loose on the elves, so edena, what do you say, do the illithid of other worlds help the psionic league? IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 01:29 AM The elves, along with all their allies (faerie, angel, dwarve, gnome, etc.) send a diplomatic envoy to the Technomancy. Offering Alliance with the Technomancy. Alliance against the hordes of Scro and Thri-Kreen who are coming from the two Crystal Spheres they control. Alliance against the humanoid hordes out of control. Alliance against the devils, demons, and the massive forces of evil Outsiders and evil humanoids being sent from other worlds. The elves say: this is our world. Toril. Toril the beautiful. Let's stand together, we of Toril, against the extra-planar and extra-world menaces. The elves even send a diplomat to the NeoIllithids, requesting alliance with them. The message: Let's protect our world, Toril, Abeir-Toril, the Cradle of Life, from the millions of monstrosities from other worlds that have come, or are coming, to overwhelm us all, and those on this world who would ally with them. The elves point to the Defilers of Athas as a prime example of these unwanted outsiders, and the demons, who continue to rampage and plunder indiscriminately. IP: Logged (Page 2) Author Topic: Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 01:32 AM Draco, absolutely not. The illithid of other worlds are coming. To support the Illithid Alliance of this world (not the NeoIllithids) And the Illithid Alliance of this world, has not taken any side but it's own. And, by the way, they ARE now close to figuring out how to put out Toril's sun. IP: Logged johnbrown Member posted 04-11-2001 01:32 AM The Circle of Eight, The Old Lore and Old Faith, sensing that peace is no longer an option throw in with the elves. Plan B consists of Ulek, Celene, Furyondian, Velenese, Keoland, Greyhawk figter, cleric, wizard, and rouge that hey can lay their hands on throwing in with the elves as well (better to have Toril destroyed than Oerth). IP: Logged Gruffmug Member posted 04-11-2001 01:34 AM They scro alliance arrrive in Oerth's crystal sphere and begin scouting with small unintrusive spelljammers. What defenses do they have? IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 01:35 AM REPRISAL!!!! You FOOL! Grrrrrrrrrrr. Coward. Okay, Edena. As soon as Zouron and Draco have summoned enough help to take down the elves, I ATTACK! We will start by eliminating the elven menace from everywhere BUT Evermeet -- we want to control all of the continents, if we do not already. Perhaps the cowards have already fled. After that, all of the remaining elves will be on Evermeet. May I ask, Edena, the approximate dimensions of this island? Our mages may find it easier to cause a massive tidal wave that would wipe out all life there -- rather than taking the time to invade. Heh heh heh. Lord Forrester Peacemaker IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 01:37 AM Noted. It is easy for all these nations to send forces, since the Gates are now open. Evermeet welcomes them eagerly. There is a problem, though. Iuz immediately attacks Furyondy, Veluna, the Vesve, and the Shieldlands. This is partly to stop you from doing what you were trying to do: support the elves. He is also doing it because you are weakened, having sent large forces to aid the elves of Toril. The moment Iuz does this, the war in Teht flares up all over again. Stonefist declares war. The Theocracy declares war. Exhausted Nyrond is pulled back into the conflict. The outraged dwarves and elves, jumping the gun, attack Turmosh Mok and his Pomarj orcs. Seizing the initiative, Greyhawk and the cities of the Wild Coast, and Verbobonc, join in the attack. Seeing the nations supporting Geoff and Sterich occupied, the giants and drow renew their attacks. The Scarlet Brotherhood watches all this, waiting for the opportunity to pounce. IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 01:41 AM Do you see, Reprisal? They ask your help AGAINST us! They WISH WAR! Let us give it to them! Should you decide to move against us -- no, you could not possibly be that foolish! We *are* the production of your empire. We are the guardians. You are in our midst -- and ever have been since we defended you from these accursed elves. Should you throw in your lot with them, you would fall within *days*. Do not be tempted by elves. Meanwhile, I secretly talk with Iuz about a possible invasion of Oerth. Most of the "good" powerful forces apparently have come to Faerun. No doubt that there are humanoid factories starting up in Oerth. And besides, the Toril sun is about to be blotted out anyway. It may be time to leave this accursed world, and start in a new one. NOBODY expected THAT, DID you?! Lord Forrester Considering Getting The Hell Out Of Here IP: Logged johnbrown Member posted 04-11-2001 01:42 AM Has Modenkien been able to speak with Elminster? If so what's his take on all of this. IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 01:43 AM Holy COW! I posted the post after Edena's BEFORE I read it . . . simultaneous posts, both dealing with war on Oerth. So how about it, Edena? Would a mass migration to Oerth be successful -- and offer us a greater chance for victory/our own Humanoid Homeland? Or not (very likely not). But I must ask . . . IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 01:43 AM The final war for the elves begins. The Elven Imperial Navy has positioned itself over Evermeet, to protect it from Wildspace. The elves have a large ethereal, and a large astral, force, ready to defend against planar attacks. They have large defenses Below. Evermeet itself is 200 miles long, and 100 wide. Every mountain and hill, every tree, every building, everything you could think of and more, has been fortified, refortified, magically fortified, magically fortified again, and elves are ready to sell their lives dearly. With them stand legions of angels. Practically all the Faerie Folk of Toril. Massive hosts of dwarves and gnomes. With them stand vast numbers of peoples from other worlds and planes. A host of Outsiders from Arvandor. A vast host of humans and demi-humans from Oerth. The list goes on and on. The final war begins. Scro and Elven ships clash in space. The sky lights up with the explosions. Mages teleport to battle. A thousand spells detonate. Warships collide, guns blazing, fireballs lobbed, lightning bolts shattering the skies with endless thunder. The sea churns and boils as the sea elves and merfolk clash with the sahuagin and others. Wild magic storms begin erupting, and racing eastward. Multicolored lightning flickers from strange clouds of black and purple hues. Hurricane force winds strike the mainland. Great waves roll in, harbingers of things to come. IP: Logged johnbrown Member posted 04-11-2001 01:45 AM Forrester, Iuz thinks that's a wonderful idea. But you have to leave the devils here. IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 01:46 AM Hmmmm. It seems that Edena is typing faster than I am. That's amazing in itself. I guess we're not going to do the big Switcheroo/Attack Oerth. I order my Underdark humanoid factories to batten down the hatches, if they haven't already. Looks like the elves are going to be doing some dumb High Elven Magic again. Bastards. Well, it isn't as though we didn't see it coming. Technomancers -- this is your time to act, and help us before Elven High Magic destroys us all. Again. Lord Forrester Peacemaker IP: Logged Gruffmug Member posted 04-11-2001 01:47 AM To add to the confusion of Oerth the Scro alliance begins making raids on the surface helping Iuz. Also, the scro welcome the people of Athas. Stong warriors we can respect. Forrester, we do get the planets as it was stated I do control two crystal spheres. IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 01:49 AM It is not my right to speak for another's character, so I cannot speak for Elminster. However, it should be obvious the Chosen are taking the side of the elves, and fighting for them. Also, the nations of Toril that sided with the elves, are sending all the force they can, via teleportation circles and Gate, to Evermeet. It's do or die time, for them. They empty themselves of fighters, throw everything they have at the conflict. Nations like Rashemen, Aglarond, Cormyr - they are hurling everything they have against the foe. The Technomancy could have a field day against these countries. They could walk right in and take over. These countries are beyond caring. All they see is that Outsiders and monsters from other worlds have come to destroy their world. The battle rages. All out war is in progress. An immense cloud forms over Evermeet, filling the planet's troposphere and stratosphere. Lightning flickers out of it from all sides, bottom, sides, and top. The cloud is clearly visible across all of western Faerun, and people look on in awe. I need to know what the Technomancy is going to do, and I need to know NOW. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-11-2001).] IP: Logged DarwinofMind Member posted 04-11-2001 01:55 AM Wow! Ok, I'm back, but about to go to sleep, I considered packing my PlaneWalkers up and leaving, but we realize that this war is spilling out there may be no where to run. I have met with the Dragon-king in the interest of learning new psionics. (OOC: Edena I know your running this but I'm with Forrester why does the Chosen side witht the elves when they started the war that may destroy the multiverse and they fired the spell that could have killed Mystera? I fail to see why anyone would side with the elves in this. Other then the Metagaming aspect of Elves are cool we have to keep them alive there part of the game.) IP: Logged Forrester Member posted 04-11-2001 01:56 AM Okay. There is but ONE course . . . ONE thing to do at this point. If we can . . . We've been working on a little spell -- to shut down Psionics for a little while. Well, as the elves pointed out, there's ANOTHER little spell out there . . . that shuts down all MAGIC for a little while. It's time to use BOTH -- and BOTH it must be. One or the other will not be enough. First the Psionics one -- then, a day later, the Magic one. This will give the Phaerimm ample opportunity to free themselves from the Illithid *and* slay many of them, spoiling their plans. Then, we stop all Magic. Evermeet will lose all magical protection -- and with our greater numbers, they will FALL, FALL, FALL! The Devils will be warned -- but the Solars will die, the Outsiders will die, and the elves, who once again overrelied on their magic, will die. Our troops will be in non-magical ironclads, but they will still float (and again, we have the powers of the evil sea creatures). Even without the magic, we have excellent technology -- and we have greater numbers! And we will be prepared for what happens. The elves will not. Assuming that both spells will work, and that we can get enough troops to Evermeet afterwards -- that's EXACTLY what we do. Lord Forrester Peacemaker We will stop the Elven High Magic from destroying Toril. . . Oh -- keep in mind that since the last fiasco, the Technomancy (and the humanoids technomancy), while adding magic to various items, has made sure that most still function WITHOUT them. Rifles without Truestrike and +3 bullets are still rifles. Of course, perhaps we can't even cast the demagicking spell -- in which case, hell with it. We'll just kicking their ass anyway. (And we *wouldn't* cast it unless we knew we could overwhelm the Island, Normandy-style, right afterwards . . . ) Lord Forrester Peacemaker [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-11-2001).] Mr. Draco Member posted 04-11-2001 03:32 PM Wow, that is impressive... Good luck edena. If it is possible, could people still help me put together enough pertinent information in the other post (titled: "History of toril during the industrial revolution") to create a viable campaign world, i think it would be really great if people could help with that. Bugaboo Member posted 04-11-2001 03:34 PM ... And then the world disappeared. That's where Bugaboo came in! (But he didn't stay long; just enough to have fun while he rebooted reality under the guise of his Edna of Nieth avatar. Then he left again.) Mr. Draco Member posted 04-11-2001 03:34 PM Nuts, the part about the psionic league sacrificing itself for toril is gone. Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 03:36 PM IP: Logged Gruffmug Member posted 04-11-2001 01:56 AM The Scro weary of elven magic back off to the edge of Toril. We then send a massive fleet expendable whos sole purpose is release 10 improved Witchlight marauders (they have regenation and spell resistance) on or as near as possible. hmm.. it may be better if we wait and consult forrester first. We have what amounts to an A bomb do we use it? Nok "We let the dogs out" [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-11-2001).] IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 01:57 AM The Chosen answer you, Darwin. The Chosen state: If the elves of Toril are exterminated, it will cause all life on Toril to end. This is because the elves are a part of the Magic. The Magic of Toril. The elves ARE a part of the Weave. Magic and life on Toril are entwined. One cannot exist without the other. Destroying all the elves, down to the last and least, will wreck the Weave. IP: Logged Reprisal Member posted 04-11-2001 02:03 AM In an address to the United Parliament of the Technocratic Coalition, broadcasted on the D&D equivalent of radio, even though we may as well have it if we've got WWI level technology. "Members, Ministers, we stand at a precipice. We have been through close to six years of warfare, and it has become more than obvious that if we continue, not only will it end in fire, it will end in the total destruction of entire populations... "We did not start this war, the elves did, and we battled them back with the help of our humanoid allies, under Lord Forrester, and now we stand as a monument to a society built not only on technology, but on the rights of every sentient being that walks this planet. This was a battle of self-determination, and we have won that after our baptism of fire. We are a young collection of nations by all standards, and yet we still have the sum knowledge of all that have come before us. "The question now becomes: 'Do we have the right to erase an entire race from the face of the planet?' I fear that if we do so, we will become not only hippocrates, but no better than the elves. We, as a nation, have built our nation on the fact that no one nation has jurisdiction over that of another, separate one. The only war that is justified is one of defense, and the war our allies have advocated, have pushed upon us, is not a just war. "Though we still treat our allies as compatriots, we will not march our armies onto foreign soil if they have not attacked us. The Great War is over, and I for one wish it to remain so... The question, I pose, is one of the utmost importance: With the introduction of other worlds, alien to you, I and many others, do we dare act with impudence? What dangers face our citizens, our sons, if we agree to send any of them into the breach? "I do not wish to fight, but if we must, we will. Despite what some may believe, we are still a force to be reckoned with, we have just grown ourselves a set of values that we can call our own. These may prove alien to some, but they must be respected, or all we have fought for has been for naught. It is with a heavy heart that I ask the Honourable Speaker to call a vote on what we do next: "Mr. Speaker, as leader of the Liberal-Democratic Coalition, I call for a vote on our next action. I see three things that we may do: (1) Join the Humanoids in a war that we know to be unjuste, (2) Join the Elven Combine in a war we know to be unjuste, or (3) remain neutral in its truest sense. I believe that the answer is obvious, please, we cannot turn on the values of our founders, we must respect the sovereignty of any and every nation on this world, or not on this world. "What the humanoids choose to do is of their own concern. It is now that we, and we alone will decide what it is that we do from now on. We are free from the tyranny of the elder races, and what we do from here is a result of our choices. I do wish that those who hear this respect our choice, for it is ours to make. "Thank you." (( Though I, as a political leader, advocate the total neutrality of our Coalition of Nations, I cannot dictate what it is that we do, it is up to either Buzzard, and Lannon to help make the choice. Should they not be here, I leave their two votes to Edena. )) Reprisal. ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-11-2001 02:03 AM Sorry, Forrester, but the elves are the only ones who could pull that stunt. And then, only once. However, the dropping of Witchlights on Toril is it. That's the final straw. Do you know what a Witchlight is?! It is a creature that multiples out of control, and this multiplication is measured in seconds. The multiplication requires no growth, and no sustenance, except that the Witchlights must eat, and eat, and eat. They cannot be stopped, once started, once they have really gotten going, by any known magic or being. And your scro allies just dropped several on Evermeet. Water is NOT an obstacle to witchlights. Multiplying out of control, they will destroy all of Toril. The elves unleash their answer to the Witchlight, as they promised they would. The tarrasque is awakened from it's slumber, and it comes to Evermeet (and the elves weep, too, at the grim necessity of doing this awful thing, bringing THIS being to their sacred homeland). The tarrasque, alone, is capable of taking on and stopping the Witchlights. The tarrasque ... starts to feed. [/QUOTE]
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