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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7257470" data-attributes="member: 6775031"><p>Doesn't that go back to the previous point, though? About AD&D-style multi-classing giving you way more than it costs you? Level 2 spells are nothing to sneeze at, especially compared to one level of fighter.</p><p></p><p>Third edition had a lot of balance issues, so it's hard to say where to place the blame in this case. It could just be that single-classed spellcasters scaled too well, such that any levels of Fighter were only holding you back. It could be how they re-vamped ability scores, so you needed an incredibly high stat in anything you wanted to do (you couldn't get by with having twelves in Strength and Int, like you could in AD&D, because everyone <em>else</em> had 20+ in their main stat). </p><p></p><p>I'm sure some of it was that they realized a multi-class 8/4 was stronger than a single-class 10, so they wanted you to actually pay for the levels you had. They just neglected to account for the above issues with exponential spellcaster growth. (A Fighter 8/ Rogue 4 actually <em>is</em> pretty comparable to a Fighter 12 or Rogue 12.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 7257470, member: 6775031"] Doesn't that go back to the previous point, though? About AD&D-style multi-classing giving you way more than it costs you? Level 2 spells are nothing to sneeze at, especially compared to one level of fighter. Third edition had a lot of balance issues, so it's hard to say where to place the blame in this case. It could just be that single-classed spellcasters scaled too well, such that any levels of Fighter were only holding you back. It could be how they re-vamped ability scores, so you needed an incredibly high stat in anything you wanted to do (you couldn't get by with having twelves in Strength and Int, like you could in AD&D, because everyone [I]else[/I] had 20+ in their main stat). I'm sure some of it was that they realized a multi-class 8/4 was stronger than a single-class 10, so they wanted you to actually pay for the levels you had. They just neglected to account for the above issues with exponential spellcaster growth. (A Fighter 8/ Rogue 4 actually [I]is[/I] pretty comparable to a Fighter 12 or Rogue 12.) [/QUOTE]
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