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<blockquote data-quote="Bayushi_seikuro" data-source="post: 8898116" data-attributes="member: 7024851"><p>Very interesting discussion in this thread, so thank you all. This is actually quelling all the negativity I've been feeling towards humans in general on both sides of this.</p><p></p><p>Understanding the push AF made makes sense. Remember, most board of directors I believe tend to be ran by... well, people representing their own businesses/interests, primarily profit. </p><p></p><p>If we're in a situation where most of the people sitting on this board get their understanding of 'systems' from tech... no wonder this board doesn't feel that 'giving away' the engine that everything is built on is a good idea. And I can almost guarantee at some point, one of their lawyers told them that the original OGL had no true meaning as a precedent because they knew they could go to a judge and argue there's no direct case law equating written creative works to software (I get that code is a 'written work' and no doubt has its own precedents). People can say or argue what they want, but until you have a judge officially sign on the line which is dotted, it's all a mental exercise. Even on things that DO have established case law and are assumed settled, you see decisions that pitch those. It's all in the reading.</p><p></p><p>All businesses make mistakes. All businesses, and humans, make unforced errors that have unforseen effects. A perfect example was when AT&T went to buy Tmobile here in America because Deutch Telecom wanted to get rid of it. AT&T was so 100% sure it would go through - since AT&T would be the most sensible buyout since they used the same tech - that AT&T put a clause in that they would pay $5B to Tmo if it didn't go through. No one wanted to see the Ma Bell reform, so they nixed it, and Tmo got a giant warchest for nothing ... and now? Even if Tmo isn't getting your money directly, they no doubt get it when you use Boost or Mint, etc.</p><p></p><p>I hope the general vitriol that has gone on has died down. This isn't about 'one side won' or 'They caved'. I hope the net end result will be that those who want to play D&D will still be able to in whatever form they choose or is offered, and those who want to pursue one of these other licenses will enjoy and spread the hobby. And hopefully these other licenses will have the foresight to NOT assume anything and actually put the verbage 'irrevocable' in the document this time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bayushi_seikuro, post: 8898116, member: 7024851"] Very interesting discussion in this thread, so thank you all. This is actually quelling all the negativity I've been feeling towards humans in general on both sides of this. Understanding the push AF made makes sense. Remember, most board of directors I believe tend to be ran by... well, people representing their own businesses/interests, primarily profit. If we're in a situation where most of the people sitting on this board get their understanding of 'systems' from tech... no wonder this board doesn't feel that 'giving away' the engine that everything is built on is a good idea. And I can almost guarantee at some point, one of their lawyers told them that the original OGL had no true meaning as a precedent because they knew they could go to a judge and argue there's no direct case law equating written creative works to software (I get that code is a 'written work' and no doubt has its own precedents). People can say or argue what they want, but until you have a judge officially sign on the line which is dotted, it's all a mental exercise. Even on things that DO have established case law and are assumed settled, you see decisions that pitch those. It's all in the reading. All businesses make mistakes. All businesses, and humans, make unforced errors that have unforseen effects. A perfect example was when AT&T went to buy Tmobile here in America because Deutch Telecom wanted to get rid of it. AT&T was so 100% sure it would go through - since AT&T would be the most sensible buyout since they used the same tech - that AT&T put a clause in that they would pay $5B to Tmo if it didn't go through. No one wanted to see the Ma Bell reform, so they nixed it, and Tmo got a giant warchest for nothing ... and now? Even if Tmo isn't getting your money directly, they no doubt get it when you use Boost or Mint, etc. I hope the general vitriol that has gone on has died down. This isn't about 'one side won' or 'They caved'. I hope the net end result will be that those who want to play D&D will still be able to in whatever form they choose or is offered, and those who want to pursue one of these other licenses will enjoy and spread the hobby. And hopefully these other licenses will have the foresight to NOT assume anything and actually put the verbage 'irrevocable' in the document this time. [/QUOTE]
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