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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 7734005" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>@<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6688937" target="_blank">Ratskinner</a></u></strong></em> and @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a></u></strong></em></p><p></p><p>I don’t want to rehash the history of the 4e Skill Challenge or our own history in discussing it! However...</p><p></p><p>Can we at least agree that the fundamental components of noncombat conflict resolution machinery are:</p><p></p><p>- mechanical substrate/framework </p><p></p><p>- procedures to move from framing to locked-in resolution</p><p></p><p>- techniques that being about dynamic, coherent fiction and interesting decision-points</p><p></p><p>A nice bonus would be to have a resolution procedure where tactical depth meets a tight feedback loop with resources/PC machinery that augments PC habitation in the unfolding situation (eg creates urgency or a sense of risk or a sense of emotional investment) for a player. But that isn’t fundamentally mandatory (but contemporary game design should include it as understanding has matured significantly). Now, whether one feels 4e’s instruction (establish a goal, go to the action, change the situation, success with complications, fail forward, failure is not an endpoint) is sufficient to the task is immaterial to whether or not you agree with the three required components above (myself and pemerton obviously do, Ratskinner does not).</p><p></p><p>So, in the spirit of this thread, do we agree that the above is the litmus test for even the barest attempt at functional conflict resolution mechanics?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 7734005, member: 6696971"] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6688937"]Ratskinner[/URL][/U][/B][/I] and @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582"]pemerton[/URL][/U][/B][/I] I don’t want to rehash the history of the 4e Skill Challenge or our own history in discussing it! However... Can we at least agree that the fundamental components of noncombat conflict resolution machinery are: - mechanical substrate/framework - procedures to move from framing to locked-in resolution - techniques that being about dynamic, coherent fiction and interesting decision-points A nice bonus would be to have a resolution procedure where tactical depth meets a tight feedback loop with resources/PC machinery that augments PC habitation in the unfolding situation (eg creates urgency or a sense of risk or a sense of emotional investment) for a player. But that isn’t fundamentally mandatory (but contemporary game design should include it as understanding has matured significantly). Now, whether one feels 4e’s instruction (establish a goal, go to the action, change the situation, success with complications, fail forward, failure is not an endpoint) is sufficient to the task is immaterial to whether or not you agree with the three required components above (myself and pemerton obviously do, Ratskinner does not). So, in the spirit of this thread, do we agree that the above is the litmus test for even the barest attempt at functional conflict resolution mechanics? [/QUOTE]
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