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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5019770" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I think you may have missed the point. Suppose you have the rule "mutual consent" makes someone an enemy/ally. A power says "+2 damage for every enemy in the area of effect" (there are powers which do this), then it would obviously be advantageous to have the guys on your side that happen to be in the AoE decide they are your "enemy" for this purpose. Domination can make this kind of thing even more problematic. Warlock curses, especially with certain PPs that allow things like removing curses to get benefits, are another area where you simply cannot allow PCs to decide to become each other's allies or enemies by mutual consent and not create a big giant unintended cheesy donut hole in the rules (mmm, mixed food metaphors, yummy).</p><p></p><p>Ally/enemy determination is entirely the province of the DM. It has to be. The closer you look at it the less and less viable it is to allow PCs (or monsters if the DM wants to be nasty) to dynamically decide which side they are on. </p><p></p><p>Personally I think the best way to look at it with domination is generally to see the action taken by the dominated character as a use of the dominator's domination power itself and thus the dominator gets to make any decisions related to it and enemy/ally is determined from the dominator's perspective. That doesn't make the dominated character an enemy of the rest of the party. There MAY be situations where the DM should consider such a character an enemy for a specific purpose though. Overall you just need to keep in mind what is going on and make the rulings based on a sensible approach. This is why the rules are silent on this point, there simply isn't any one way to rule that is consistent and always works.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5019770, member: 82106"] I think you may have missed the point. Suppose you have the rule "mutual consent" makes someone an enemy/ally. A power says "+2 damage for every enemy in the area of effect" (there are powers which do this), then it would obviously be advantageous to have the guys on your side that happen to be in the AoE decide they are your "enemy" for this purpose. Domination can make this kind of thing even more problematic. Warlock curses, especially with certain PPs that allow things like removing curses to get benefits, are another area where you simply cannot allow PCs to decide to become each other's allies or enemies by mutual consent and not create a big giant unintended cheesy donut hole in the rules (mmm, mixed food metaphors, yummy). Ally/enemy determination is entirely the province of the DM. It has to be. The closer you look at it the less and less viable it is to allow PCs (or monsters if the DM wants to be nasty) to dynamically decide which side they are on. Personally I think the best way to look at it with domination is generally to see the action taken by the dominated character as a use of the dominator's domination power itself and thus the dominator gets to make any decisions related to it and enemy/ally is determined from the dominator's perspective. That doesn't make the dominated character an enemy of the rest of the party. There MAY be situations where the DM should consider such a character an enemy for a specific purpose though. Overall you just need to keep in mind what is going on and make the rulings based on a sensible approach. This is why the rules are silent on this point, there simply isn't any one way to rule that is consistent and always works. [/QUOTE]
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